despite consuming more and more fast carbs, my BG continues to drop, so I lowered my basal rate and we’ll c what happens. I know its gonna take about 2 hrs to see any changes, but I think its worthwhile. Always an experiment.(if I find I need less basal, I will lower it further.)
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LAST NIGHT WAS HELLISH:
OMG, last night was a roller coaster ride. persistent lows followed by temporary highs, then more lows. finally at 8pm I lowered my basal and I made it through the night. Phew.I hope that today and this evening are better; I’ve kept my basal at 95% and I took a little less insulin bolus for my refuel shakes. we’ll c what happens.
here are today’s stats:
9am BG 64 took 1 Gtab
10am BG 97 lowered basal to 85%
10:30 BG 109 took 1/2 Gtab and left the house
11am BG 76 took 3 Gtabs (oops. maybe 1 too many)
11:30 BG 125 and turned TB to 95%
12pm BG 70 took 1 Gtab and ran home
12:15 BG 76 Bolused 4 units for 32gm refuel
12:40 BG 58 took 1 Gtab and drank my shakes lowered TB to 95%
Difference today: I was NOT well rested as yesterdays roller coaster was exhausting. The weather was very hot but low humidity and nice breeze. I did more running than speed walking today, as I am finding these new running shoes are actually making such a great difference, and I feel that I am getting stronger and use to running in the heat. I am also able to pull down my face mask more frequently bc I am running earlier and there are very few people out in the late morning hours.
I am praying that the rest of my day will go smoothly. 
signing out,
DM
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Wohoo! I’m so glad you like the hokas. Definitely more money, but super worth it IMO if they’re the right shoe for you. I just ordered my second pair after realizing I’m way over 300 miles on my current pair.
me too 
sun and heat, I just cannot get used to running in. It’s going to be a long summer… 
But anyways, DM your BGs and runs look great ! 
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I ended up having to lower my basal another .025 so now its down to .05U/hr less. 
Hopefully that should do it, but we’ll see.
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JUST AN UPDATE:
at approximately 12pm this afternoon, I needed to turn off the lowered TB and return to 100%. I guess the exercise IS wore off 
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I THINK I NEED A LOWER TB:
so today was amazing. I mostly ran the entire way. same route as usual. about 7.5-8 miles. decent BGs. well rested, felt stronger than in the past, and still amazed at how a good running shoe can make such an incredible difference in my performance and endurance and how my body feels during the run.
it was very very hot today, 97 degrees and high humidity, even at 10am. I am seriously considering skipping breakfast and running earlier in the morning. haven’t made up my mind yet bc I love to eat and feel like that fuel helps my performance. I’ll consult with our FUD running guru on that one.
here are today’s stats:
9:30am BG 74 turned down basal to 85% and ate 1 Gtab
10am BG 107 took 1 Gtab and dashed out the door
10:30 BG 70 took 2 Gtabs
10:45 BG 60 took 3 Gtabs (maybe a little over-zealous)
11:15 BG 113 turned off TB
11:30 BG 72 took 2 Gtabs
12pm BG 63 took 1 Gtab
12:15 BG 77 bolused 4 units for refuel shakes and drank 48oz water
I have a major endorphins rush today, which is wonderful, and I am hoping, as I always do, that the rest of the day goes well. My dream is to remain in target range. No lows and no spikes, but of course I’ll deal with whatever comes my way.
signing out,
DM
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This would hurt your performance.
It’s okay to do it on occasion, for easy runs. But in general, without eating you are going to not have as much fuel available.
Early in the morning before breakfast, your liver glycogen stores are somewhat depleted, so you are not starting out with a full tank if you skip breakfast.
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I had a feeling that you were going to say this! I already get up at 5ish to eat Bfast bc I don’t want any IOB for my run. Should I try getting up an hour earlier? That’s kind of crazy 
How do you handle your food and your running. we have never really discussed this (at least I don’t remember if we have.)
I could try leaving with a little IOB ??? ( I had IOB when I was swimming bc I had to do a small bolus before I went on ZB so I wouldn’t spike. Do you remember?)
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After 2 hours, most of the IOB should be gone. And if there is anything left, you can have a small snack before starting to cover whatever insulin you have left.
How about eating 2 hours before and turning your basal to zero an hour before your start? Keep an eye on your BG and have a snack if you need it, right before you begin.
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I’ll try a modified version of that next time out. I would typically wait 2.5 hours post bolus, turn on my TB, and then wait about 1/2 hour before taking off. I was thinking of doing an 80% TB as the 85% was too much insulin OB. I was eating the Gtabs like crazy today, and was glad knowing that I had 2 Transcends with me just in case I really went low.
I just did a lowered TB to get me through the night. I was going too low for my comfort level. I don’t like being in my 50s or 60s as you do. I get all shaky and googled eyed
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In theory that sounds great, but I don’t think that my intensity is up there enough to call for a ZB. My swimming was much more intense than my running is at this point. I’ll get there, I know. I have faith. But I’m not there quite yet.
(I think that you have more faith in me sometimes than I do in myself 
)
If you run 2 hours after you bolused for breakfast, your body would still has some insulin from the bolus. So the ZB would be fine for you.
A ZB 4 hours since your last bolus and last meal is not the same as a ZB 2 hours after a meal…
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So if I follow your plan, I would be on ZB for approximately 3 hours total. Would I then do replacement basal the same way I did when I was swimming? And then bolus on top of that for my Boost shakes?
Or, would I turn my basal back up when I am about 1/2 hour before my finish? (this is kinda what I’ve been doing if you have noticed my pattern so far. I originally started doing this so that I wouldn’t spike when I finished.)
SO, eat, wait 2.5 hours, ZB for 1hr, leave the house, test every 15-30 minutes and feed carbs as needed?
but btw, I am going to go out tomorrow with Bobby, so we will b leaving the house at 10am when I have Z IOB. so I thought I would try doing an 80%TB for 1/2 hour before leaving and test frequently. My SPI BELT is loaded up with tabs and Transcends.
2 hours, not 2.5
Yes. As long as you are not too low.
You don’t need to have the plan in ink. Write it with a pencil and have an eraser.
Like if you are 50, then don’t turn your basal back on 30 minutes before!
Don’t decide now when you will turn your basal back on. You will have much more information when you are actually running. That is the correct time to decide.
Have a plan, but adjust it as needed. 
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OK, so I want to get this correctly; I pre-bolus and wait 20 minutes. It takes me 1 full hour from when I bolus till when I am finished eating breakfast; do I wait 2 hours after I finish eating, or 2 hours after my bolus?
And how about replacement basal to make up for the ZB?
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2 hours after you finish eating.
After, do the 50% replacement basal. Plus bolus for the shakes.
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When I bolus for the shakes should I still add the extra 1 unit as I’ve been doing (which was to prevent delayed spikes)???
Also, when I was swimming, I did about a 75% basal replacement. is 50% replacement enough?
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The difference is that with swimming, you were on ZB a lot longer I think. Like 4 hours or so!
A shorter ZB means you probably don’t need to replace as much…
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A SLIGHT ERROR IN JUDGEMENT EXPERIEMENT:
OK, so today I tried something different, because I wanted to do more running than speed walking. I lowered my basal to 80% and waited 45 minutes before leaving the house. I wasn’t considering the power a glucose tablet has when I was on the lower TB. Wow, did it catch me off guard. but once I realized what was happening, I was, thankfully, able to compensate and keep the experience up front in my mind for the next time.
here are todays stats:
9:30 BG 77 turned down basal to 80%
10:15 BG 101 took 2 Gtabs and left the house
10:45 BG 91 took 2 Gtabs (didn’t need the extra one at all!!!)
11:15 BG 141 turned off my TB and ran hard to bring my BG down
11:45 BG 74 took 1.5 Gtabs
12pm BG 60 took 2 Gtabs
12:30 BG 71 bolused 4 units for refuel and drank 48oz water
as soon as I am running 100% of the time (no more speed walking) I will put into action Eric’s suggested plan of ZB rather than simply 80%. It is just too brutally hot to run even at 10am.
I also wanted to add that there is an enormous difference between running and swimming that I have noticed. Swimming was much more meditative for me and very relaxing. After I run, I am high as a kite from the endorphin rush ( I guess thats why they call it “runners high.”). I feel very speedy rather than the calm I felt after a good swim.
signing out,
DM
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This is very interesting. I wonder to what this difference could be attributed? I think I have noticed the same thing with swimming but it has been a long time since I last swam for any length of time. Could it be due to the total workout (use of all muscles) from swimming? It is a good feeling though! 
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