From Swimming To Running; Adjusting to the Pandemic

The Hoka One will be great! They are highly reviewed, and I know several super runners wearing them!

Hmm, I’m not a fan of Chinese nor Indian food but hope you have fun with your cousins. Stay safe if you are going out to a restaurant!!

OMG, yes, I read ALL of your swimming posts, even before I joined FUD! They were soooo helpful! Your posts really do transfer well to running!

Waiting for my sensor to expire so I can change it. Hope it doesn’t have any issues activating after the TWO HOUR warmup. It sometimes fails to activate :sleepy: Sure wish Dexcom would come out w/ a sensor that doesn’t need a TWO HOUR warmup!

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I wear the FSLibre not the Dex. It only has a 1hr warm up and is not wonky on the first day ( which I always found with the Dex)

I stayed on the lowered TB throughout the evening, overnight and this morning. All was in perfect range. Think I will b staying on it throughout the day. ( unless my BG suddenly pops up) most likely bc I was out there 5 days this week and the past 3 days in a row). ( this was the case with swimming; cumulative days required less basal every time)

Just trying to stay between 70-95. And I’ll say this again: KIND bars r the way to go. They really keep me steady and there r so many flavor choices too. I am currently obsessed with the maple glazed with nuts and sea salt😋

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So glad your BGs stayed stable overnight. Yes, I like the Kind bars, too, but gels are easier to take on a run :slight_smile:

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I don’t bring the bars with me while I’m out; what I meant was that nibbling on them throughout the day helps keep my BGs stable, and I also like them before I am planning on leaving the house and zipping around the neighborhood doing errands (they keep me from going low, and they are enduring cause of the nuts in them)

when I am out speed walking, I just bring Gtabs and Transcend gels with me. I like the really fast carbs. I test about every 1/2 hour and make treatment decisions based on my BGs. Typically, just like when I was swimming, I start out higher, and progressively go lower towards the finish.

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Oh, well, you are definitely the expert over me then !!! :blush:

I thought about the Transcend gels then I found the Muir gels, all natural with some good ingredients. They actually taste pretty good, too. Carbs range from 10 - 18 depending on the ingredients in the gel. I’ve used them a few times while running, and carry an extra one with me. They are a smaller package than the Huma. I usually eat the Huma because I’m more experienced with it now each of them have 21g carbs, no variety, so a bit easier to calculate. I don’t really like their taste though… :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Have a great time w/ your cousins!

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I am sooo far from being an expert about anything :rofl:

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JUST TO REPORT SOME RESULTS:

my overnight went perfectly, although i had to lower my basal by .025 (95% TB). And, I had to maintain that TB for all of yesterday and all through last night and so far, all through today.

There was no spiking at all; in fact, I went low a bunch of times. (which I already mentioned in my post-workout post)

I also wanted to report an interesting tid-bit of info: The more water I drink, the more accurate my sensor readings are. it seems that massive hydration has been my benefactor for many things. (i.e. good for kidneys, etc)

( maybe all of the time I was using the Dexcom, and found it c completely and consistently unreliable, I was, perhaps, not hydrated well enough?? Just a thought.)

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I have heard others report this, too. I haven’t noticed this myself but I do always have water with me to stay hydrated. I don’t monitor how much I drink, but pretty sure I drink much less than you! Your posts usually end with drinking 48 oz of water, or something like that! I never feel like drinking that much, but I guess feeling thirsty is not a good test in deciding how much to drink, or so I hear. :slight_smile:

So glad to hear your BGs stayed stable and NO spike, yay!!

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NEVER BOLUSED SO LOW BEFORE:

well, its become clear after a week of what I will officially call a pattern, that I need to increase my morning basals; I started yesterday (to c what happened this morning) with adjusting just one basal at 2am by .025 ). I saw a great difference which proved my theory when I responded to it well, and then saw my need to continue to increase my following (later) morning basals. I have been having a spike every morning (early) from a perfectly in target BG to Poof, a quick rise. So I made an adjustment and we’ll see what happens tomorrow morning.

anyway, now to the good stuff: today was extremely hot and humid (nothing new) I was very well rested, feeling strong, and left the house ASAP as soon as my BGs began to rise (half hour after lowering my TB). I was a little skimpy on the Gtab fueling along the way, but nothing terrible happened. Just a low landing. easy to correct (which I did)

here are today’s stats:

8:30am BG 83
9:30am BG 121 (turned down basal to 85%)
10am BG 127 left the house immediately (no IOB)
10:45 BG 84 took 2 Gtabs (8gms) and continued
11:15 BG 96 took nothing and turned off my TB
12pm BG 57 took 1 Gtab and bolused 4.2 units for 32gms refuel* (never bolused so low before, but took a chance…what was the worst that could happen? I take another Tab?? LOL)

Now it’s just a waiting game, as always. we’ll c what happens. I repeated exactly what I did on my last excursion , and it worked well then. perhaps I will get a similar result today. If u count the time I was on my TB, it was only approximately 1hour and 15 minutes; not that long, so I didn’t do any basal replacement.) drank 48oz water before drinking my first Boost shake.

signing out,

DM

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I’m so glad you seem to have found your groove already with running :running_woman:! I’m so glad for you!

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So far, I have been able to avoid the spiking, since I increased my bolus for the refuel shakes. Instead of just doing my regular 1:10 ICR, I add an extra unit (Eric’s idea), and it has worked out well. Also, I have shortened my time on TB so that seems to have made a difference. And, I don’t turn my TB down as low as I had been (only 85% instead of 65% )

my post workout BGs were nice and flatlined and in target. Its now 6pm and I returned home at 12pm noon.

Stats:
12pm BG 57 (bolused and drank 2 shakes )
2:15 BG 85
4pm BG 90 (ate some Chips and Cheese without bolusing)
5pm BG 100
6:15 BG 84 (bolusing for dinner on 100% basal)

so far so good. :crossed_fingers:

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Yay! :clap: Fantastic numbers and no spikes!! :star_struck:

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These numbers look great! Wonderful stuff yesterday!

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STILL HAVING TROUBLE WITH MY MORNING BASALS:

I continue to increase my early morning basal rates beginning at 4am and 6am, yet I continue to rise significantly very quickly between 4am and 10am despite corrections. This is causing me to begin my workout on the high side. I want to eliminate this, so I am continuing to make adjustments. Hopefully tomorrow will be better.

Again, I had a good nights sleep, felt strong and well rested and eager to get out and do my thing. I’ve been following the same route, same amount of time on lowered TB, and same amount of time on my feet (2hrs from start to finish)

here are todays stats:

4am BG 84
8:30am BG 114 bolused small correction of .2U (didn’t want a lot of IOB)
9:30am BG 128 turned down basal to 90% TB
10am BG 125 left the house asap
10:30 BG 103 took 1 Gtab
11am BG 85 took 1 Gtab. (11:10am turned OFF TB)
11:30 BG 71 took 1.5 Gtabs
12pm BG 80 bolused 4.2 units for refuel, drank 48oz water

I am eager to see what tomorrow brings with my morning BGs and raised basal rates. Also, I am Receiving my Hoka One running shoes today and just praying that they fit so I won’t have to make a “pandemic return” (dealing with repackaging them and getting them to UPS, etc)

signing out,

DM

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Fantastic numbers once again!!! :running_woman:

Question re: morning rise in BGs … is this prior to eating/drinking anything? Do you have FOTF or dawn phenomenon? I also have BG rises in the morning without eating. This morning I went from 72 to 117 :frowning: It would have gone higher but Loop gave me small boluses for a total of about 1U as the rise continued, and brought me back down to a stable 84. This happens most days, but not everyday!

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This is brand new for me. (so I don’t know about DP) can you develop DP later on in your life with D?

I eat breakfast at 5:50 every morning. my ICRs have always worked well. and what’s weird is that the BG rise does start BEFORE I bolus for food, and then it just continues to climb. I see the biggest jump between 8:30am and 10am. I have even done micro-boluses ( .2U) with breakfast that seem to have absolutely NO impact on curbing the rise. and, as well, after 2.5 hours post Bfast bolus, I will give myself another small bolus (no effect either).

super frustrated. all throughout the previous evenings, my BGs are perfect until about 4am, then all goes wacky. But, after I get home from exercising, everything has been remaining completely in target again, right through the evening (until 4am).

my midnight basal is only .45 U/H, but then at 6am, they jump up to .825U/H !!! that’s practically double the basal insulin. Also, my morning ICR is 1:5.2 whereas the rest of the day it is 1:14 !!!

something is definitely going on in the morning, so maybe I have developed DP. (I don’t know what FOTF is, btw)

Do you have any thoughts about this? (or does anyone else?) I am open to all ideas and suggestions :pray:

So to me, this sounds very much like dawn phenomenon.

If you start to get a rise at about 4am, maybe you should increase your overnight basal say at 3am instead of 6am before the rise actually occurs, assuming this is a consistent pattern?

FOTF is Foot on the Floor syndrome, meaning your BG will rise the moment you get out of bed, as in the very next reading, and continue to just to up! I think I have this. You probably don’t have this since your rise occurs much earlier before your get up!

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Do you like the LOOP system? I always wonder about not being in control of my boluses, but your numbers always seem to be great. Does it work with the Dexcom? I don’t mean to sound uninformed but I AM uninformed :rofl:

(Also, I do NOT eat a carb-heavy breakfast. I have an Icelandic Skyr “yogurt” with a cup of decaf with half and half and Splenda. The Skyr has only 5gms of carbs and 18gms of protein.I do need to bolus for the Decaf though)

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the rise starts somewhere between 4am and 6am. I will have to set my alarm for 5am and see if the rise begins around there. If it does, then I will definitely make the basal change to 3am instead of 4am.

Thanks. I’m going to try this tonight!! ASAP. great idea.

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Yes, I love Loop! It works with OmniPod and Dexcom on iPhone. It also works with Medtronic pumps but I think they have to be older pumps. I’ve been using it for just over a year and although it hasn’t made a huge difference in my A1c or avg BG, it has definitely helped lower my SD (standard deviation). Plus it is so much easier for me to manage bolus/basal/carb/BG on the iPhone versus the featureless OmniPod PDM. It is also great to be able to see ALL data (bolus/basal/carb/BG/exercise) in a single graph in Apple Health, Tidepool and Nightscout - I use all three, and SugarMate on my Mac :slight_smile: I know, it sounds like overkill! But really once it is setup it is just a tap away to see how current and historical data.

Oh, wow, that is almost nothing. Are you bolusing for this? I know you mentioned you need to bolus for protein. It could have a rather slow absorption time, as well.

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