FUDiabetes

Ypsopump just approved in Canada

There are now FOUR choices of insulin pump in Canada. :slight_smile:

Shakes up my own pump decision a bit - I’d just settled on t:slim but was waiting to see what their app is like (supposed to appear in the App Store any time now), but now need to consider this option.

Apparently the app that goes along with this pump has also been approved, but it’s not yet in the App Store.

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how do you pronounce it? :smile:

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Ipso-pump

https://www.diabetesdaily.com/blog/introducing-the-ypsopump-576210/

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I can’t believe people aren’t more excited about this?! I nearly fell out of my chair when I heard it.

Things I like about this pump:

  • Fully waterproof (not just water resistant)
  • Super small and lightweight (so I’ve heard)
  • OLED screen (should last a long time and be super bright)
  • Uses an AAA battery (this could be a minus, depending)
  • A reusable inserter for STEEL sets (I’ve wanted this for the past decade!)
  • Glass cartridges (theoretically, you can fill a month’s worth of cartridges at a time!)
  • iPhone and Android app integration (I’ve read the app works with Bluetooth meters, too)
  • Apparently the Loop folks are working at integration

Things I don’t like:

  • Cartridges only hold 140 units (but prefilled cartridges may cancel this out)
  • No on-pump bolus calculator (I don’t care too much about this, but I think many would)
  • No CGM integration…yet
  • Only one brand of infusion sets (Orbit, though you can pick from plastic or steel)
  • The infusion sets have blue tubing that I’m not keen on

Of course, I need to actually see it before I decide if I like it. I’m contacting the company, so hopefully will get to see it soon.

Also, my endocrinologist mentioned that the Dana pumps may also be coming to Canada soon. So then things would get very interesting!

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if the Dana RS was approved in Canada, I would 100% go and get one there…

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Does that pump already support Loop?

I have my fingers crossed that the Ypsopump might come next now that OmniPod has been figured out…

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it already supports Android APS. What I love about that is there is NO Riley Link. To me, not having to troubleshoot a somewhat finicky homebrew minicomputer would be fabulous. Loop works really well, but the case often breaks and it’s just one more thing Samson has to carry in his little diabetes suitcase.

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Am I the only one who read “YpsoPump - Ypsomed Diabetescare - Canada” as “Ypsomed Diabetescare”?

Nice to have choice but I am still stuck on the omnipod patch pump.

@jen loop only supports Medtronic and Omnipod at this time.

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@TiaG thought Android APS only supported the Dana pumps and some Accucheck pumps at this time.

I am right there with no finicky homebew minicomputer :slight_smile: that is why I will not be looping with my omnipod anytime soon.

https://androidaps.readthedocs.io/en/latest/EN/Getting-Started/Pump-Choices.html

yeah, that’s what I mean; I’m mainly interested in the Dana, not the Ypsopump, for that reason. To me, the Dana R is a significant value add over Loop with a Medtronic pump because it means ditching the minicomputer. But the OmniLoop or another tubed pump doesn’t really appeal that much to me.

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Oh my gosh this pump so so cool. None of the things you listed as cons would sway me from getting this but I can see those mattering to others for sure. Any news of this coming to the US?

Is this possible ?? :eyes:

haha probably not. Or maybe? I’m not sure. I think it depends on the country’s rules for who can buy these things…

Pumps are sort of awkward. There are no government rules that will stop you from buying a pump BUT the pump manufacturers usually want to have an intimate relationship with you and tend to be worried about people who self manage their diabetes without a doctors involvement. If you know what I mean.

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Yes, but I have heard (only through blogs and Twitter, mind you) that some of the DIY people (perhaps not Loop…I still get all the different ones mixed up) are looking at the Ypsopump as a possibility.

Is the Dana pump using Bluetooth? What makes it compatible with Loop (or other systems) while pumps like t:slim and Ypsopump and future OmniPods aren’t compatible (and I’ve heard may never be as Bluetooth is encrypted).

A lot of the “negatives” aren’t really negatives for me, either. The bolus calculator, for example, is something I rarely use on my pump, so I don’t care too much about it, and having it on an app would actually probably result in me using it more.

I heard (just on Twitter) that they are aiming to apply and/or get (wasn’t sure which) FDA approval in late 2019.

Aside from what @Aaron said about the pump companies, you’d also need a prescription. That would mean you’d need to see an endocrinologist, which would mean you’d have to see a GP to get a referral to an endocrinologist, since you can’t just call specialists up to make appointments here. And then, I would suspect, any good endocrinologist would want to build a relationship over at least a few appointments before prescribing something as involved as an insulin pump. Also, I’m not sure what the situation is like today since I got my last pump eight years ago, but both pumps I’ve received have required a couple training and follow-up appointments with a nurse at a hospital-based diabetes clinic (not my endocrinologist’s office).

I don’t think you need a prescription for a pump in the US. Maybe to have it paid for, but not to buy it?

Yes Dana uses bluetooth. The AndroidAPS developers worked with Dana to understand the protocol.

Omnipod DASH (the bluetooth one) is working with Tidepool Loop to understand the protocol as well. BUT not there yet in the open source community.

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Ah, so the YpsoPump folks would need to work with the Loop people to help them understand it…

You do not need a prescription BUT… To order my last pump I just called the distributor and gave them my information and they shipped the pump to me (and told me to wait till training to use it…). I did have to give a doctor’s name and I think they followed up with the doctor to “sign off” on giving me the pump and providing initial pump settings. Of course the doctor did not sign-off so they called the doctor to make sure he was ok with me getting the pump (which he was) and I just used my own settings and put them in without the doctor’s “setting sheet”.

Interesting. I’ve always had my endocrinologist fill out a statement of medical necessity. But maybe this is just for insurance purposes? I’m amazed that they don’t require a prescription for a pump or insulin (something that can kill you) but require a prescription for equipment that wouldn’t be able to kill someone… I’m guessing if you don’t get a prescription you need to pay out of pocket?

Statement of medical necessity is for insurance coverage :slight_smile:

I do not think they would just sell you a pump without an understanding that you are under medical supervision, but I suspect this is more for their liability reasons.