From Swimming To Running; Adjusting to the Pandemic

Oh, I have know doubt of that, DM!!! I know your health is his utmost concern and he will do anything to help you!! I know he will follow you 'til you are strong enough to make it on your own and I know it takes a toll on you both. TG you have each other!!! :heartpulse: :heartpulse:

You are the BEST at monitoring and adjusting your basals!! I am continually impressed!!! :star_struck: :hugs: :pray:

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A wonderful helpful spouse is clearly one of life’s blessings. Glad you found one!

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Ok Trying, Yes, I know, I am a fanatic about my basals and am constantly tweeking them, but this has been ■■■■ show since my surgery. Its my. 10am, 12pm and 4pm that I cant put my finger on.

today at 12pm I began to go low… This has happened a couple of times, so I lowered my 10am basal, my 12pm and my 2pm, but then at 2pm today, my BG went down to 27!!! My lovely husband started to make me drink 2 large glasses of (fresh) apple cider, followed by 2 pieces of chocolate (both very yummy). Very slowly, my BG came up to a safe 176. (for which I did a correction of .8 units (I still had IOB). Dont know what to expect. But I am still tweeking since out of the hospital**. OY GOD WHAT A NUISANCE!!!

Then the physical therapist rings the doorbell. (we’ve been waiting for him to show up for two days) Now mind you, he shows up when my BG was merely 44 (and rising) He made me do all of these quite strenuous exercises. My thighs are burning. But he said to me,“no pain no gain.” Ugh, how so cliche (especially in his very thick Turkish accent, which was hard enough me to understand. No offense to any Turkish members on FUD or their relatives, but this guy was wearing enough cologne to kill a zoo of animals as well. :rofl: )

So, Mr. No pain, No gain made me do these very painful exercises, which I kept on telling him were hurting me, and he kept on saying “No pain no gain.” then, finally he explained what the pain and gain was for, and it all made sense to me. (he also adjusted my walker, bc it was not the right height (it was merely the height that the shippers sent it in so who could know…what was I ? a physical therapist?) But I must say, “Wow, what great difference it made from his adjustment!” So koodoes for him on that note.

But then he told me that it was better to high than low with my BG, especially when exercise was involved :grimacing: :upside_down_face: :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: Clearly he didnt know a lick about our athletic FUD members deal with our pre-exercise blood sugars!

so thats that for today. wishing good Basal control to you all

signing out ,

DM

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I’m sorry, DM, but your post was so funny, I mean about Mr Pain no Gain! It sounds like he is actually perfect for you and he knows you are tough to take the pain. I really hope the pain does indeed result in gain and quickly, too!

Man, 27 is indeed low. Thank goodness your husband was there to get the cider. I didn’t mean to jinx you, if I did! You are though great at monitoring your BGs and tweaking your basals. I am always amazed at your control!

Ha, yes, your PT therapist would be amazed at you, too! Imagine him trying to recommend to YOU the best pre exercise range for exercise! He is out of his league on that! :slight_smile:

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truly!

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Yea, I just kept my mouth closed this time. it was obviously too much of a bother. It just would have taken up too much of my time explaining basals and boluses and turning my pump on and off. my goodness.

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Yes! I’m still learning daily even after reading your entire swimming :swimming_woman: thread which for me was my first education! I tried to mimic your method, but tweaked it for running. I know others have, too. Thank, DM, for all of your dedication and persistence!!

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AND MORE OF THE LATEST:

So I had a video visit today with my pain management doctor. He increased my Oxycodone from 5mg to 10mg 3 times a day, and my Lyrica from 1 time a day to 3 X/day ( they made a mistake at the hospital when they sent this pain med in, so he didnt really increase how often I take this med; my pain management doctor just fixed the mishap)

I had my first real at home PT this afternoon. This guy worked me hard. I wasn’t able to do a lot of the exercises but I did my best; I was somewhat discouraged though bc the exercises were so simple, and I watched as my legs just would not cooperate. Pour me.bending,twisting, picking things up that I’ve dropped on the floor. ( I feel like an idiot asking her to do these really simple things.)

Okay…

so that was the other day. Now we’ve got a new home health care worker. She follows me around like a Mother of chicks. everywhere she’s behind me. ( I think that this is my husbands doing :rofl: ) I cant turn around without her there. OMG, cant a gal go to the bathroom and P by herself??? .( Luxury problem, right? now I feel guilty for complaining.)

But the PT guy came again. this time and worked me even harder. oy. And now everything aches. and I can barely walk (not that I could walk before). I cannot believe that I’m this atrtrophied.

I just cant wait for all this crap to be behind me and I can get back to my regular life routine. I just want o be strong again!!! I want to be the regular Daisy Mae!!!

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Trust the process DM! Major surgery (yours definately qualifies) takes time to come back from. I know it is frustrating, god knows being followed into the bathroom isn’t normal, but you will be back and a cyborg to boot in no some time.

edit - really glad they got your pain meds sorted. Nothing stops healing quite like not being able to sleep because you are in too much pain.

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@daisymae Sounds like you got a good PT person! Works you hard, makes you hurt a bit (ok, maybe a lot), but the intent is a good recovery, preferably as good or better than you were…minus the pain of course. Sending good thoughts you way!

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@Chris I keep telling one of our cats the same thing, “I don’t need your help in here!” He hasn’t taken the hint yet! Perhaps @daisymae could take my approach: Pet the person a couple times, say “Nice Kitty [insert real name here]!” and then push him/her out the door with a firm, “Get out! I can do some things by myself!”

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OMG, just this afternoon I had one of those terrible incidents where my. BG rose to 272 and I automatically bent down on the floor to give myself an IM injection of insulin without thinking. As I was getting up, I realized what I had done. Now my back is killing me. What on earth was I thinking? MY pump was working fine, but I changed the infusion. Now my sugars are coming down. Last BG was 228, only one hour after the injection. I’ll test again in another 1/2 hour, and Thank God my husband didnt witness this bc I would b reprimanded all evening.

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Wow, if I was going through what you are, this would probably my regular BG! I’m glad the IM injection worked AND I hope the pain medication is helping to alleviate the extra pain from bending for that IM shot!!

And speaking of kitties, I hope your little one is giving you comfort while not causing any mischief!

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I really hope I didnt do something terrible to my spine when I bent down to do that IM shot. My back really is killing me.

Is it possible to have lower bk cramps from exercising the lower legs? My back is so tight and cramped, and my legs are also tight and cramped.the PT guy REALLY worked me hard yesterday. I am so afraid that I may have ijnjured myself .Well I took a Oxycodone and an Elite at 8am and its now 9 am and my sugars are coming down. I was very aggressive my correction. But still I love and prefer the IM shot for high BGs bc they work so much faster. Its so hard to have patience with the Sub Q injections.UGH!!!

Yup. my little baby just curls up beside me and follows me everywhere. I think animals know when you are sick bc. every time Ive been sick, he is right there beside me. I must say that I absolutely love that.

Siging off,

DM

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I totally agree!!

:heart_eyes_cat:

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RECOVERING VERY SLOWLY AND OBSESSIVE THINKING:

So since I last filled you in, I fell, more like a crash, from my walker and hit the floor pretty hard. So now of course I am obsessing that I have completely paralyzed myself. I call the surgeon and explain myself. I was told that so long as I did NOT have radiating pain shooting down my legs and arms, I was most likely just fine. That they have had a patient who was in a car accident not too long after their surgery and they were just fine. That these rods and screws are Titanium and VERY hard to break.

But nevertheless, whenever I get a deep cramp, or anything that does not feel “right” around my spine, I begin to freak out. Wouldn’t you if you had gone through all of this???

So recovery is truly truly slow. A LOT slower than I ever expected. I am starting to be able to move my legs and even walk a little bit (emphasis of LITTLE BIT) without my walker ( five feet to maybe eight feet). I can only lift my legs about 3 inches from the ground (and I am following the PT exercises at home every day with my husband )(they are truly exhausting and within just 15 minutes my blood sugar will drop about 20 points!!) It takes me about 1 hour to walk 1/2 way around my block and back, and my blood sugars will go from 150 to 105 !!! OMG :upside_down_face: :grimacing:

And, no matter how I set and re-set my Pump, I cannot seem to find the “right” basal settings or ICRs. I can go down to 35 doing nothing but sitting in my desk chair to swinging up to 195 from drinking a tiny bit of apple juice and then walking. I can wake up at 75 only to spike 15 minutes later to 170 (out of nowhere, no food, no drinking, nothing) And believe me when I tell you, I have tried everything I can think of!!!

I am in chronic pain all day and all night long. I have night sweats reminiscent of Menopause. Most of this, I have found, is due to the medication I am taking. And BTW, the current meds I am taking (with many tweaks and changes) are OXYCODONE, TYLENOL, GABAPENTIN, AND ELEVIL. I not only have the surgical pain but I have neuropathic pain due to one of the locations of my surgery which is on the left side in which they removed 2 hyrniated discs and went under the muscles to put in “cages” to separate the vertebrae.

Anyway, last night was a ■■■■ show . I was in terrible terrible pain throughout the night and felt certain that all of my falls, or other things I have done which I am not supposed to be doing ( reaching, twisting, etc) has completely crippled me. Then I convince myself that these are just normal spinal recovery pains and I take a pain killler and a muscle relaxant and all the pain abets. like magic. no more pain at all.

So, this is where I am at today. Its one day at a time, sometimes one moment at a time. I have a new set of X-rays in. 2 weeks and then I see the surgeon. I will know more then and be able to report it all back to you.

Again, thank you all for your prayers and support and generosity.

signing out,

DM

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That is the perfect answer. You had major surgery and this will take time to heal and the best way to do that is to minimize the pain to maximize the healing. Good for you! Please consider loosening your diabetes control just a bit if it is driving you crazy. Going up to 195 isn’t that bad. It isn’t like you are running around at 500, which would impede your healing. Your poor body is doing its best to heal, but every day you are working out like an athlete (based on the blood sugar rise) when you do your PT. Keep the road and hopefully soon more milestones will fall. I believe in you!

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A lot of this is probably a hormonal response. Before surgery, when you were athletic and active, a little walking was really nothing for your body. Just normal.

But now, even a small bit of activity makes your body think you are under great stress, so it responds with bigger amounts of glucose.

What is your TDD, weight, and daily carb intake now compared to before surgery?

Is the morning spike consistent? Like every morning, or just random? Do you have coffee in the morning?

Oxycodone and Elavil (amitriptyline) can cause BG changes. And there is some research that suggests that Gabapentin can contribute to low BG too.

Overall, which is worse for you right now, the spikes or the drops? Let’s work on fixing that one.

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well always inciteful, here you are again :rofl:

But seriously, I would have to say that the drops are more hellish than the highs, which have seemed remarkably fixable. The lows seem near impossible to raise, no matter how much juice I can drink.

my basal rates seemed to have flip-flopped such that I have barely .1 u/h throughout the day and through the evening .225 u/h. Then, as night comes upon me, so does my need for insulin. by 10pm, I need 1.0 u/h just to get through the night with a smooth 90. then I may wake up only slightly low (65) which is no big deal and easily correctable if I so choose. But this is a massive improvement from waking up at 225 when my basal was only .3 overnight.

and this doesn’t tae into account how much PT or napping I do during each day. or even both one after the other. (even on 80% TB, which is what I used to use for my running, will cause me to drop terribly over a 15 minute walk)

please, Eric, work some magic here! :heart: :+1: :crossed_fingers: :crossed_fingers

BTW, my TTD is 14 U/H
God only knows how much I have gained from inactivity (maybe I’m 110lbs now???) ( I absolutely dread stepping on the scale, but one thing at a time) and I was 5’4" before the surgery and am now 5"5" post ( a definate plus :rofl: ) since the surgery.

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Thank you for putting things into a better perspective and your encouragement. My Endo has said much the same thing, and I trust him implicitly bc in my opinion I think he’s open minded and brilliant.

Also, my surgeon (probably) got so sick and tired of ky (almost daily) complaints via texts that he upped me in the que and I will be having new X-rays and seeing him next Monday morning. (I am scared to death of what it may reveal !)

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