I have a stash of the G6s (sensors and transmitters) that should last me a year or so after they stop being manufactured. Hopefully they’ve work out all the issues with the 10-day G7 by then.
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How do you set this in the G7 app? My understanding from memory is that it was removed from the G7 and is not available.
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@ClaudnDaye Thank You for letting us know!!
I have found the sensors still have worked for me a year plus after their expiration, but the transmitters can be iffier too much past their date. They start losing their connection a lot easier for one. There is a FB page that will replace the battery in the transmitters for about $65 plus shipping if I remember correctly. I haven’t ever used them but I do have the FB saved if anyone wants to message me.
I too have heard a lot of negativity about the G7, but as someone already said we hear more from the unhappy users than happy ones. It might be they have made improvements to it too in the last 6 months. I do have a back up supply of G6 sensors so at least I can start accumulating G7’s to get a back up supply built up before I have to actually start using them. I love my restarted G6’s and commonly get 25 days plus from one sensor, I will miss that!
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@ClaudnDaye I work the 12 hour “bonus” and refill as soon as the pharmacy will let me. Over the last year or so I’m up at least 2 full months of sensors (maybe more -i have a new shipment due any day). I also ping Dexcom for any sensor that doesn’t go the distance. It’s petty, but it builds my backstock.
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Make sure you save the box lid and/or the applicator so you will have all the numbers needed to report early sensor failures. That is a pretty good way to build up a hopefully small stockpile. On the other hand, if you experience multiple sensor failures you can build up a larger stockpile.
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My apologies to all, @funk is absolutely right and I’m wrong. The smoothing I was commenting on is located in the DIY Trio app I use, NOT the G7 app as I stated. That’s what I get for relying on memory rather than going and checking it as I write. Doesn’t matter to me as I still don’t have it turned on, but for others relying on the G7 app it is not there. Thanks for the correction @funk. I’ve editted my previous post to indicate this.
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@terry I think the site you mention belongs to the Bionic Wookie (I think he’s Austrailia based), however, I think you’re referring to the Anubis G6 transmitter. LoopAndLearn has a web page about it and links, see Anubis | Loop and Learn.
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The mailing address is Indiana…. It is called Designs and Replacement on FB and you can read the basics without joining. I have never used them. You should easily be able to find it by the name in FB search. I am just leery about posting the link here because it comes up in a general web search then.
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I feel like we should always have more than one model available. They have never pushed us down to only one. I don’t like this new precedent…not since G4.
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Im pretty happy with the G7 although there was a little bit of a learning curve on how to think about the trends differently due to the less smoothing in the algorithm (which I imagine many folks don’t/didn’t realize was happening behind the scenes on all previous versions).
I think while I might have a had few more fall over the course of a year, they were all replaced quickly and due to the different adhesive and shorter sensor Im less prone to knocking them off or them peeling away, so Ive got a net improvement in total sensor success over the year vs G6.
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I keep hearing the term smoothing. I’m a visual learner…anyone want to take the task on to show what you mean by this, with graphs?
G6 -vs- G7 preferably.
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Sort of like so: My black dots are G7, the purple line is pretty close to what a G6 would report. Not dramatically different, but the G6 is a little more hesitant to report changes, and while the overall picture is the same, that bit where I power walked for 15min in hopes of catching the bus home (the three consistent falling dots near the end) the G7 is giving me some of the more real time fluctuations vs the G6 would have reported a gentler slope and probably skipped showing the piece of candy I ate just before leaving my office (the tiny and temporary uptick before the fall).
Its subtle! But I spent my first few G7 sensors over treating trend lines (not the arrows, just my eyeballs seeing trends) because I assumed it was reporting the same smooth dots Id always seen (which I didn’t know Gs4-6 were even doing until I moved to G7).
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This is great! Thanks for the visual!
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Below is Dexcom own example with and without smoothing, though both are from G6, not G6 and G7:
G6 app without Smoothing
G6 Receiver with Smoothing
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I believe it’s in the Dexcom app. xDrip+ does the same thing as Trio; it can show smoothed readings or the raw readings. This wasn’t possible with the G6 so far as I know because the G6 smoothing happened in the transmitter (maybe the original raw readings were available somehow, perhaps in debug, but I don’t remember anyone finding out how to get them).
I leave the xDrip+ smoothing off (so my records, TidePool, NightScout, show the real readings) but using the “exponential” smoothing option in AndroidAPS so the AIDS doesn’t do treatment decisions based on wack-a-doodle swings. I’ve also recently turned on the “advanced” setting to use the “average” delta though I’m not sure how much that is going to affect overall control yet.
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That’s the rewrite-history smoothing. It was never clear to me where the rewrite happened; the initial results out of the G6 had the “drop outs”, as in your example but then the display on the receiver changed after the drop out was sorted.
I didn’t study it enough to work out whether later back-fill data from the transmitter contained the rewrite. The drop-out showed in xDrip+ but not in the receiver or, I assume, the app. This is one of the reasons I much prefer the G7; if a failure like this causes an underbolus (the drop out always seemed to be towards low BG) I would like to know it happened!
Now if NightScout/TidePool could record both the original and the smoothed data that might be really helpful.
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@ClaudnDaye this is also the time to consider moving to another supported CGM, not Dexcom. The options are limited with the O5 but they are there. Other G6 users may be able to consider EverSense and that claims a lower MARDS than the G6 (and maybe the G7).
I’ve got a shout out to EverSense to tell me what AIDSes they support (the commercial ones, AAPS is supported because xDrip+ supports EverSense).
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You can have the G6 and G7 working at the same time and only have one connected in your DIY Loop. Although, if you’re using NightScout, both devices will show up in your graph… I’m sure there’s a way to stop that, but I never tried. Only done this a few times when testing out the G7’s.
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Dexcom , would be better off keeping the G6 , until they get the G7 working as well as the G6 presently does. My Endo is ready to put me on someone else if the G6 ends, She is not happy with the results or accuracy of the G7.
Anyone have any info on what other CGM systems work best with the Omniloop, LOOPED (https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1BqEmGJ4Qh/) DIY system? If we have to go with the G7 we will, but I’m seriously considering other options while we still have time. I have about a years worth of G6’s saved up which I’ll use first before going with the G7’s, but I worry holding the G7’s for so long will cause some “battery leakage” that’s been described before…because @Liam-M isn’t 18, we’ll have to use the 10-day G7 instead of the 15-day to start, if we switch to the G7.
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