From Swimming To Running; Adjusting to the Pandemic

I just read this part of the chain…almost had to laugh out loud!!

I’m pretty sure some of the guys got sheepish, some got fascinated by the peculiarities of the female form…

What hoot!!



So my wonderful and attentive and respectful and intuitive (u get the point) specialist that I have been seeing regularly for my pain (Since last September) recommended I see another pain management MD who performs epidurals, etc. (I did see a hip specialist who did X-rays and told me there was absolutely nothing wrong with my hip that would require surgery, and that all my pain was coming from my spine).

So I saw this new doctor, and he was amazing! He had me do test after test in different motions, movements, walking, etc. He had me put pressure on my legs and my feet. He had me bend over and try and touch my toes (OMG that hurt!) And decided that I needed another epidural, but this time in the L2 and L3 parts of my spine, bc that is the part that effects the hip and the groin areas. Also, he dx me with Bursitis, and if the epidural doesn’t help with that, he will give me another hip (location) injection 2 weeks later for that.

This doctor was nice and respectful, and basically everything you would want in a doctor whose purpose is to help you feel better. He looked on my chart and was able to see which types of steroids had NOT worked for me in the past, and the one steroid that DID work for me (and thats how he decided which steroid to use) Also, I just want to mention, that the steroid that did work (I wish I could tell you the name of it but I’ve forgotten) only raised my BGs for 3 days as opposed to the other steroids which raised my BGs for 10 days. (and the insulin resistance was much less than the other two that I had before.)

The last thing I want to mention is that the Gabapentin that I began titrating up on (to 1800mg) had to be discontinued. I began to have terrible (but common) side effects from it. I got tremors, bloating, constipation, and painful leg cramps). But the tremors have had to be the worst of everything. I am now down to 900mg a day (you cannot just discontinue taking it. it must be a slow downward titration, so I am still on it and working my way down). I am still experiencing the tremors and the leg cramps, but I am looking forward to that going away once I am off of the Gabapentin completely. This is very sad for me bc I was so hopeful that this drug would prove to be helpful. I know many people on it who have found it tremendously beneficial.

signing out,


PS: I get my second Moderna vaccine this Sunday. Not looking forward to the potential side effects but thrilled to be safer in public than I’ve been in a year!!!


Sorry that you haven’t found relief yet. Warm thoughts being sent your way. I am rooting for you!


This specialist seems sensitive to what you are going through and to what should be done. I hope the next epidermal will work but I know this is a step by step process.

Yes, gabapentin can have side effects and it does not always work for everyone. I’m glad you noticed the side effects and reduced the dosage.

Good luck with the next modern shot. I hope no side effects with it! :heart: :pray:t3:


Got my second Moderna shot this Sunday. OMG. Feel miserable. Like I have the flu. Aches and pains everywhere. Thankfully no fever and no BG problems at all. So exhausted that I fell asleep while talking with my husband! :rofl: Right in the middle of a sentence (so he says). Took a nap yesterday afternoon that lasted 6 hours! I know it will pass though, so I am not really concerned. I went into it knowing that this would most likely happen. My biggest joy is that I dont have any BG reactions at all. I hate when I get sick and I have to deal with that on top of it.

BTW: does anyone else spike from eating bananas? I cant seem to bolus properly for them, and I dont want to give them up. I always have to give myself a correction bolus about 1.5 hours after finish eating one.


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so two weeks ago, I had a very intense epidural into the L2 and L3 areas of my spine. I only had about 24-36 hours of elevated BGs and barely had to make pump adjustments or change my regular insulin regiment to accommodate the steroid. Strange.

Long and short of it, it did not work one iota. And the injections themselves were terribly painful, especially in the locations of the injection sites.

I saw the specialist again for a follow-up this past Monday. Now I am scheduled for another set of injections right into the nerve root itself at the base of my spine on the right side. All he’ll be injecting is Lidocaine (I believe). And this has, apparently, a very low success rate. Why bother? Because it is my last possible option before delving into cutting me open and removing parts. Ugh. But if this works, it could be absolutely wonderful, so I have nothing to lose. I mean, I’ve tried everything else (including acupuncture) If this does not work, the next step is performing something called an Appellation of the nerve root where they burn off a portion of the nerve that is being pinched from my spine to make some room and create enough space that the pain is relieved. Unfortunately, from what I understand, this is like putting a bandage on, bc the nerve ultimately will grow back.

I do, however have two spinal neurosurgeons lined up for down the road. I am not a betting type of gal, but if I were to have to place money on the outcome, I would bet on the surgery taking place.

I have not been chiming in and delving out the moment by moment, day to day experiences I’ve been going through simply bc I have been so utterly depressed and exasperated that I couldn’t get my thoughts together enough to share them with the FUD community. Today I am living in a place of acceptance and peace of mind and spirit, so I thought I would take the opportunity to share this all with you.

I know everyone is in my corner rooting for me, and I cannot begin to tell you how wonderful that makes me feel. It really makes all the difference knowing that you guys have my back.

And btw, just an aside, in case I did not remember to report this, The Gabapentin I tried taking did NOT work for me. I began getting terrible and frightening side effects and I had to titrate off of it ASAP. :grimacing: :weary: :crazy_face:

signing off,



Hang in there @daisymae, I (we) are rooting for you to find a path to pain free living


I’m sorry @daisymae. I’ve been thinking about you and just hoping you’ve been too busy off whooping it up, drinking tequila and eating chocolate to check in! :crazy_face: I’m sorry the current treatments haven’t worked. Interestingly, I did just have a lidocaine injection in my eyebrow/forehead as I went to my regularly scheduled migraine/neurology appointment with a migraine and my dr wanted to try a “nerve block.” It worked in dulling the migraine, but only for about 5 hours.

A few years ago I did have a newer procedure for migraines called “nerve decompression,” where the nerves that generate out of my eyebrows were either “decompressed” (the bone/tissue around them removed to give them space to be) or removed so that they didn’t fire and hopefully didn’t cause migraines. It worked for me for awhile.

I am very, very, very sorry that you are going through this. It is bullshit (sorry if that gets me demerits on here). It truly is. I wish there was more that we could do to help. Please keep us posted and I will continue to keep you in my thoughts. Please feel free to send me a message if you want to talk nerve decompression or anything else. xoxo - Jessica


We are definitely rooting for you to get back your healthy and pain free life style. I have been thinking of you and was hoping, like JessicaD, that you have been enjoying some nice walks, and delicious grilled cheese sandwiches! I know that will happen for you. You are so brave, intelligent and persevere, you will overcome this and get back to swimming, maybe even before the pool has opened!


What an ordeal, @daisymae! Hang in there. You are an inspiration more than you will ever know.

BTW, glad you got off Gabapentin. It is evil, as you discovered. My partner was on it briefly for TN and it turned him into a zombie. A zombie who twitched and forgot his words and had nightmares. Classic “cure is worse than the disease.”


Beacher, OMG. It truly was a nightmare. I had exactly the same symptoms as your partner. Tremors, confusion, forgetfulness, spaced out, and exhausted. I was really hopeful at the beginning bc I have a few friends who take it without any side effects and much relief. Bummer.


So, as a moderate counterweight, I will say that when I was down and out with frozen shoulder, gabapentin truly may have saved me. Gave me modest relief from the pain and allowed me to sleep. That said, I was only ever on 300 mg/day. It bothers me that I’m still on 100mg/day, but I am still dealing with FS and every time I take that 100mg away, the pain ramps back up. So, if anyone is ever at the point where it is recommended to them and wants to talk about it, I’m also here as a resource! (I am very sorry it didn’t work for you guys :frowning: ) Jessica


I was doing fine at 300mg but had no relief. I was titrated up to 1800mg and still got no relief. (and I have diabetic neuropathy in right foot and hand which it should have helped as well but didnt).

I had what was called “foggy brain” and could not put a clear thought together and was forgetting very simple, basic things (like did I Bolus for my meal? Did I even eat? When did I take my last Ibuprofen? What day of the week is it? Who am I? :rofl: )

Sorry to hear about your FS. That sucks. Pain just sucks period! :weary: :grimacing: :sob: You’ll be in my prayers.


That sounds horrible and pain IS THE WORST. I so hope you are able to find relief soon. xoxo


Well that I have definitely been indulging in!!! (however the aftermath of those “nice walks” is miserable.) I really pay a high price for them, but if I dont get out and move my body regularly, I just feel too depressed and riddled with self-pity. I definitely need the challenge, however painful. ts been one heck of a year!

But speaking of grilled cheese sandwiches…On Monday, after my Birthday, we are going to my other favorite food haunt : Bare Burger. I am soooo psyched. Perfect burger on Brioche roll with a double order of Guacamole, Tera Chips, and sweet potato fries. Ecstasy. :yum:

We’ve been patiently waiting for them to re-open (bc of Covid), and now that the weather is nice, we can sit outside and thoroughly enjoy ourselves. Total pig-out :pig:

(I’m going to also try and get myself a super large slice of Key Lime Pie from this restaurant in the City. I am praying that they will accommodate me on that one. Its the best I’ve ever had.)


Happy Early Birthday, @daisymae !! :birthday: :wine_glass: Sounds like a wonderful way to celebrate, too. The Brioche roll burger (though I’m vegetarian!) and the sweet potato fries sounds delicious!! :yum:


I’m sending huge … albeit gentle … hugs to you, @daisymae !

Happy upcoming birthday too! Enjoy!



Holy cow. After all of my steroids, treatments, pain and stress, I was anticipating an A1c of about 5.7%. Well I just got my latest results of my blood draw from yesterday; believe it or not, my A1c was 5% !!! my fasting BG was 90.


On Wednesday, I had something called a Branch Block. It was a total of 6 spinal injections, L2, L3, L5 . I screamed through the entire procedure. It was the MOST painful of anything I have ever had before. Even worse than all of the epidurals put together. I had an excruciating pain that radiated from my lower back, down into my tushy and down the back of my thigh. I was certain that something had gone wrong. I could not stop crying. My husband said in our (almost) 28 years of marriage, he has never seen me cry like that before. I was wailing (what was I thinking when I put on mascara that morning before leaving the house for the procedure??? :crazy_face:). After the procedure (about 1/2 hour, totally awake), they put me into the recovery room and wrapped me in icepacks. The doctor told me it went successfully, and that if I did not experience SIGNIFICANT relief from my pain by 8pm/10pm that night, the procedure was unsuccessful. Well guess what? I was actually in MORE pain by the evening than I had been before the darned procedure, and I have continued to be in more pain. I am popping those F-ing Percocets every 4 hours and wrapping ice belts around myself (quite the frozen experience) 20 minutes on/ 20 minutes off. If it would b helpful, I would even sleep with them on. The pain wakes me up during the middle of the night and disrupts my sleep. I am beyond frustrated. And a feeling of hopelessness and depression is settling in. I have been going through this since last September, and I am hanging on by a thread.

I see my pain management specialist next week to decide how to proceed. It seems that there is no other option than full out spinal surgery. God knows I’ve been a trouper and have tried every other possible avenue.

I am so beyond grateful for all of the support I have received from all of you on FUD. It has literally held me together in ways I cannot even express.

If there is anyone out there in our community who has had spinal surgery, I would greatly appreciate it if you could post it. All the details. I would love to know what I am getting into. SO please dont be shy, and please share your experiences!!! SOS.

singing out,



Oh, daisymae, this is horrible! I’m so sorry that you continue to experience such pain!

I have had 2 spinal surgeries, (spinal fusion and laminectomy, both on S1 L5), but that was before diabetes, so I don’t know how much I could help in that aspect. The depression beforehand was unbearable, and quite honestly traumatized me more than the subsequent surgeries.

The laminectomy was the most painful recovery that I ever experienced with any surgery, although it was worth it. The fusion was less painful and took less time to recover from than my wisdom teeth being pulled. If you would like to know anything else, just ask…

As always, :pray: that you find relief!