My insulin experiment for Michel...Relax everyone!

Medicines Insulin
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Maybe just voodoo?

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Has anyone here heard of flash freezing insulin? Basically the process of freezing (the slow way) creates a crystalline structure that damages the insulin molecule (making it less effective or non effective)ā€¦ I know there was an older study that showed that you could flash freeze insulin in liquid nitrogen, then store it regularly in the freezerā€“bypassing the damaging aspects of typical freezing. I do not think this was done with modern insulin, however, and cannot find any mention of anyone ever trying. Theoretically, there would be no expiration date.

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Sounds like a great experiment for a blog postā€¦ if we only had a scientist to properly carry out a legit experimentā€¦ know any?

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I havenā€™t heard of this, but I would love to get a hold of a used medical freeze dryer to try and create some lypholized insulin for long term storage. I suspect that as long as you use liquid nitrogen to freeze you will be fine. You may need a deep freeze to keep for long term storage though not sure about that. In our old lab we would have stored at liquid nitrogen temps for long term storage.

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I didnā€™t consider lyophilizing insulin. Very good idea. We usually keep our long term storage in our lab at -80C. I read in the old study that once the samples are flash frozen, normal below freezing temperatures are sufficient for storage.

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I donā€™t know about a scientist, but I can round you up a human guinea pig to test onā€¦

Actually, now that I think about it, if you promise donuts, maybe Doc would be game too!

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I would be worried about very long term storage at normal freezer temps, I did some work long ago with an apo-enzyme, and whenever we stored it above liquid nitrogen temps, the enzyme wasnā€™t as active after being re-constituted. Our guess was even at freezer temps enough movement of the proteins was allowing some of it to degrade.

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Interesting

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Eric - this is great stuff.

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Donuts? Iā€™m in!

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And while you are at it, make a donut one for Doc and me.

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I remember reading that the flash freezing method only worked on older insulins? If I find a link, Iā€™ll post it here.

But if it does work, Iā€™m all in for a chocolate donut!

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