no not all their ideas
In my world, kind and reasonable people donât repeatedly tell someone they must be mentally ill (which doc has done to me several times) or accuse them of âTrump Derangement Syndromeâ for the temerity of expressing opinions they donât like. I can handle disagreement fine. It seems like itâs the conservatives on this forum who devolve into mudslinging rather than using mature debate. Thatâs why Iâm blocking doc, not because of disagreement.
Iâve certainly been smeared, much worse for having mainstream reasonable conservative views⌠think Iâve been pretty level headed in discussions with people who donât agree with me politically⌠and the same rules and expectations donât seem to apply to them⌠again due largely to the media and the smear campaign it no longer makes any attempt to hide toward all people and values conservative
Wait what happened to the comment in which you claimed your and docâs use of Trump Derangement Syndrome wasnât a personal attack? Did you realize how ridiculously false that was and delete it?
Argumentum ad Hominem: the fallacy of attacking the character or circumstances of an individual who is advancing a statement or an argument instead of trying to disprove the truth of the statement or the soundness of the argument. Often the argument is characterized simply as a personal attack.
I didnât delete it
I consider TDS to be a real problem in this country
Think the media is mostly to blame for it
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You know what, you watch as the people you know and love and provide service have their rights and means of support stripped away from them and violence incited against them by this farce of a President, and maybe you wouldnât be such a fan either. The media has nothing to do with it. Many of us live in a much bigger and more diverse reality than you seem to grasp exists, and we can see the effects with our own eyes on the people around us. You may need to go beyond Fox News to learn about any of that though.
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My mother is now showing symptoms in that community I mentioned earlier that were exposed to the virus because no measures were implemented for citizens returning to China.
The symptoms are spot on for COVID 19
Now we have to deal with the fallout of this administrationâs incompetence.
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Ok Iâll check out cnn
Guess I missed the memo when anyone had rights stripped away. Guess that wasnât on Fox.
Iâm sorry to hear that. I can assure you it wouldnât be working out any better with anyone elseâs administration. I hope itâs a false alarm.
As we already exploredâ- the news that the trump admin turned down early testing that could have led to better outcomesâ- completely false.
But I understand we gotta blame someone. During Ebola those advocating for travel bans were shouted down and called racists⌠now weâre accused of incompetence for not having them sooner
Yeah, glad you feel better after saying that
Because thatâs what matters right now
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Iâm sure it wasnât, so not surprised you missed it. If you dismiss all of the media that doesnât laud Trump as âfake,â youâve probably missed a lot of things that have happened in the past four years. Maybe do some research on what Trump has done to trans people in this country, for starters. Also, re his unprecedented cutting of support, maybe research the programs he has functionally defunded that previously had broad bipartisan support as the obviously beneficial things they are, like ORS.
So what do you suggest in the current situation? Other than reciting fake news about the administrations handling of the situation â what would you have done differently?
Some random idiot foreign minister implying the US military is involved with the covid-19 virus sounds very similar to me to human scumbag Republican Senator Tom Cotton. Remember way back in January when Republican Senator Tom Cotton came up with the theory that the Chinese military created the corona virus as a weapon? And Cotton continues to push his insane theory on foxnews, the rightful home of crackpot conspiracy theories https://www.foxnews.com/media/sen-tom-cotton-coronavirus-origins âSen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark. stood by his earlier suggestion that the deadly coronavirus may have originated in a high-security biochemical lab in Wuhan, Chinaâ
Sorry, but crackpot theories voiced by idiots in the government donât justify racism, or at least I donât think they do. And I hope you donât either.
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You need to check on what is a lie and what is the truth. The truth is that idiot trump disbanded the group whose responsibility it was to protect the american public from pandemics. You know, the NSC Global Health Security Office? When he did that he saved a small amount of money, but at what cost? He got rid of the pandemic planning that had been done and lost the staff. Now that we are in the midst of a pandemic, it would be nice to have those people and those plans in place, wouldnât it?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/03/18/coronavirus-did-president-trumps-decision-disband-global-pandemic-office-hinder-response/5064881002/
âGross misjudgment: Experts say Trumpâs decision to disband pandemic team hindered coronavirus responseâ
âBoltonâs chosen approach to NSC âstreamliningâ involved decapitating and diluting the White Houseâs focus on pandemic threats,â Jeremy Konyndyk, a senior policy fellow at the Center for Global Development, wrote in a rebuttal. âHe eliminated the senior director position entirely, closed the biodefense directorate, and spread the remaining staff across other parts of the NSC.â
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It is in my opinion pathetic when the strongest argument that can be made to defend our moron in chief is that he has never said things - when he is on video saying those exact things in front of crowds.
As Trump tries to re-write history, and willing idiots sign up to help him, letâs be explicit about what our pathetic leader has actually said about the Covid-19 virus. Here you can see him in clips from Feb 4 to March 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTjTaR748eg
âNow the virus that weâre talking about having to do, you know a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heatâ
âBecause of all weâve done, the risk to the American people remains very low.â
âPeople die from the flu, and this is very unusual. And it is a little bit different, but in some ways, itâs easier and in some ways its a little bit tougher. But we have it so well under control. I mean, view this the same as the flu.â
âItâs going to disappear one day. Itâs like a miracle. It will disappear. And from our shores, you know, it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away. Weâll see what happens.â
âNow the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. And this is their new hoax.â
âIf youâre healthy you will probably go through a process, and youâll be fine.â
âAnybody that needs a test can have a test. Theyâre all setâ
âI donât think its inevitable, could be at a very small level or at a larger level. Whatever happens weâre totally prepared.â
âIf, you know, we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work, some of them go to work, but they get betterâ
None of the above is true, and you know it as well as I do. Trump knew this trainwreck was coming, but he misinformed the public and downplayed the risk. He claimed he had it under control, but he did not have it under control, as shown by the fact that we are STILL waiting for test kits to detect corona virus, and we will soon be at risk for running out of the respirators necessary to keep patients alive.
Once it was clear that covid testing was (and still is) woefully inadequate, he brazenly pointed his finger in other directions: âI donât take responsibility at allâ. The true sign of a gutless leader. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOcY3XlzPzs
And now of course he is falling back on the last defense that he has, which requires all of us to erase our memories of the past, as he pretends that âwe have a problem that a month ago nobody thought aboutâ. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBWWzpBbmwY
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Trump Derangement Syndrome, is that a term to describe the state of Trumpâs own mental health and behavior, or the habit of republicans to defend all of Trumpâs indefensible behavior, which they would never accept from anyone else, or the tendency of democrats to react furiously to everything Trump does, no matter how unimportant the issue may be? 
Or simply another attempt to hijack medical terminology for political purposes, along with all the newly invented phobias?
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That one
I would add the word hysteria though
For 24/7 example, check our cnn or msnbc
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It would be hilarious how hypocritical the rightâs tendency to scream FAKE NEWS at anything they donât agree with is, especially when they levy things like TDS at anyone not on their side, if it werenât causing so much damage.
So now itâs coming out that at least some of the initial downplaying of the virus by the GOP/Trump was likely motivated by what is always behind everything they do if you look hard enoughâthe desire to make very rich people richer. At least GOP members of the senate used insider info from intelligence committees to dump stock while telling people the virus posed no real threat/was being overblown. Some also bought stock in the very companies who create the secure networks many of us working from home currently are relying on. This by the way is a federal crime, and all of them should not only be removed from office but prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and fined the entirety of their profits and then some. Look, Iâm even starting with a story about it from the WSJ, which is a conservative/Republican-leaning outlet (i.e., does not just fabricate stuff like Fox does):
When it doubt, rest assured, itâs always about money. Iâm not honestly surprised when people valued at many millions of dollars support Trumpâheâs giving them plenty of breaks and most of them probably strongly value their personal wealth since they got there somehow. I am always amazed at how anyone else with a brain ends up deluded that anything he does is about helping them, despite all the evidence to the contrary. Amazing what racist/xenophobic dog-whistling and fascist-leaning populist messaging will get people to ignore.
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Diane Feinstein? Notice she was only mentioned once⌠do you really not see the disparity?
Trump downplayed the significance and delayed response? He shut down international travel while people were howling about how racist it was. Now heâs being criticized for not acting sooner⌠canât win
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Itâs no use. They want to refer to us as deranged, yet you can literally show them video evidence of Trump doing and saying things, as well as evidence of the actions he has taken, and somehow the MAGA crowd still shouts FAKE NEWS. Thereâs no reasoning with that. Itâs literally not possible.
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