FUDiabetes

Sensor and Fraud Discussion

A whole year! You must have very soft and supple fingers!

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We will restart sensors if it is giving good data. Reason being that all sensors are not good. So if this sensor is good then roll with it while it lasts. We do not always get to 10 day on our G6 sensors so can not always restart and if we can get a restart then we are unlikely to get past 12~14 days total on the one physical G6 sensor.

Dexcom will replace any G6 sensor which has failed before a full 10 days are up.

I am more interested in getting 30 days out of a box of three G6 sensors. So if I lose a few days on one sensor and gain a few days on another sensor then I figure it all works out for the box and do not call for replacements for the sensor(s) which did not make the full 10 days. However if we are not getting 30 days from a box then I will call for replacement sensors. Usually one more sensor is enough to let us hit the 30-days for the box unless we are having really bad luck.

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Just lazy. Still use the same spot in the middle of my thumb that I’ve used for 37 years. No callus and still on the 3 setting on my finger poker thing.

I think no matter what the system, there are people who abuse and people who don’t. Unfortunately, do to their own bragging or via spotlight from others, we more often hear about those that abuse.

I think there are a significant number of people out there who do restarts for the same reason some people ration insulin - they can’t afford it.

It seems with any system, the difficulty is always finding a balance where the majority of people using the system get what they need. Unfortunately, the middle ground always allows for some to abuse it, and others to get less than they really need.

On terms of cost, I can say that I restart sensors. However, I don’t have a stockpile. I have the philosophy that if “it isn’t broke, don’t fix it.” Restarting a sensor saves me money and the insurance company money. As a matter of fact, when I switched from the guardian to the dexcom, even after the dexcom stuff arrived, I finished out my medtronic supplies.

I think it’s important to add that logic is almost never a part of the insurance claims process. It is a tough fight to get insurance to comprehend why I used 3 sensors one month and only 2 the next. It was a fight I made time for, but I also understand a fight not everyone is willing or able to make. I can see why some folks, therefore, choose to get 3 sensors per month, even if they have sensors left.

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Right, I don’t see why this would constitute fraud.

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The fraud would be telling Dexcom you have zero sensors left and need to order more when you’re sitting on a pile of them.

It is only fraud if you sell them.

Do you run your insulin vial down to the last unit before getting more?

Is your insulin script for the exact number of units you use every day, or do you have a cushion built into it?

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How would this save yourself and your insurance company money? Or does Dexcom hand out all these things for free?

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It’s fraud. Sugar coat it anyway you want. If your insurance found out you’re sitting on a stockpile of supplies, they’d cut you off. I don’t know what’s so hard to understand about this.

So you obviously must run your vials down to the last drop before you get more. Hope you don’t run out of insulin late at night when the pharmacy is closed!

BTW, you should check out the fraud in my fridge.

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Do you have anything to offer other than nonsense? I couldn’t give a ■■■■ less what’s in your fridge

Do you really think stockpiling is the only reason for people to restart sensors?

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Seems to be.

Unbelievable.

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If you will look through my posts over the past (almost) 3 years, you will find that I have offered nothing but nonsense to the citizens of FUD. You are very sharp, because it did not take you long to figure that out.

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Congratulations. Insulting my intelligence keeps your track record intact

@Jason99 I just had a problem with my Medicare order with Dexcom. After three weeks I ran out of sensors. I wish I had a stockpile, because it was the first time in 15 years ( yes, since before the STS3 was first released) that I spent a night without my Dexcom.

They were very gracious to send me a double order ( ten sensors). They apologized and said they wanted to give me a cushion. I now have a stockpile. That makes me a criminal, right?

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Absolutely. I’ll notify the firing squad of your whereabouts

Anybody up for holding hands around the campfire and singing Kumbaya while passing the wine bottle?

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I should not be back in here, but I can’t stop myself.

I keep thinking that the end result we all seek is the comfort of knowing we will have what we need. Some of us have that through a good insurance plan—not having to pay for supplies, not having had experienced back orders (or whatever else prevents us from getting our stuff in a timely manner). @Jason99, you mentioned having received a 90 day supply on a monthly basis for a while before you got it sorted out. So you never actively engaged in fraud, but you definitely experienced that luxury… of knowing you won’t come up short.

I have the same end result in mind but can’t achieve it through my plan. And honestly, I also can’t guarantee I will have the money in my account when I’m “approved” for a refill. It’s a very uncomfortable feeling. So I find myself cutting corners: leaving in infusion sets longer than I should, refilling cartridges, reusing syringes… and I don’t even consider myself hard up. I am not desperate, but I do seek that luxury of knowing I’ll have what I need when the time comes. Sometimes I make less than ideal choices in order to make this possible.

Stockpiling has a pretty negative connotation, and I feel it invokes images of people in their cellars surrounded by pricey insulin pump and sensor supplies they’ve deceived their way into receiving. It’s not what I’m doing. I’m saving up for a rainy day. Or for an “unusual circumstances” day. Or for a “they’re out of stock” day. Or for a “I don’t have this in my account” day. All it ends up meaning is I get to go on dealing with my daily diabetes stuff like everyone else without the added burden of worrying about what I’d do without the tools.

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