Meters... pictures worth 1000 words

havent a clue. didn’t even know it was possible. maybe you should look at the manual or call their tech support.

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I suppose I was being a bit lazy by asking you. I’ll take a look at the manual.

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The one touch ultra mini was a better meter in some ways imo than the verio… more repeatable results… required a huge drop of blood though compared to verio, and was harder to use…

The verio requires only .4 instead of 1.0 blood sample (forgot the units) and gives the results super fast… the flex model also Bluetooth connects to a phone app and plots it all out and analyzes you’re numbers if you’re into that sort of thing…

The mini was a good portable design and came with a good case… the verio isnt and doesn’t

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it was just a thought. whenever i dont know something i put it out to FUD PWD to see what they might know; then if i dont get the info i need, i always call up tech support.

hope you find what you are looking for. :sunny:

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Yeah, I think none of that matters a lot to me, since getting the amount of blood needed is easy and these days I probably average 1-2 tests a day, since my Dex is so reliable for me. I also don’t ever extract or analyze the data. If I tested the 10x/day that some folks do though, I might feel differently!

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If I was testing that little I’d just find the very best meter for me that I could find costs be damned, and get it even if I had to pay cash for it…

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[quote=“cardamom, post:65, topic:3266”] If I tested the 10x/day that some folks do though, I might feel differently!
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i am not on the dex, so i test about 20 X per day. it is very easy for me b/c i have no problem getting blood out for my test strips. i only use my One Touch Ultra to compare unusual BG#s; my go-to meter is the Contour Next One, which barely needs a drop of blood. i also find this meter to be the best, easiest and most accurate meter i have ever used…and i buy 600 strips on Amazon for only about $ 130 bucks. Medicare used to be free for any One Touch strips, but when i picked mine up today, it was $49 for 300 strips. i will have to look into that. dont know why i had to have a co-pay.

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I mean, I guess, but mine seems to work fine for me. I seem to get way better results calibrating off of it than most of you who use a Contour.

this may be a dumb question, but how do you know that you are getting better results from your dex over the finger sticks with your meter?

i have tested my meter’s accuracy against the blood taken from my A1c test, and its accuracy is right on the mark. but this is using the Contour Next One (Contour makes several different meters, and this is the one i prefer above all others)

I’m not saying the Dex is more reliable than my meter. I’m saying I use my meter to calibrate my Dex, and based on that data (however good or not it is), my Dex seems to work really well. And these days, for me, my meter is really just a Dex calibration device and back up option for when that’s offline for those two hour periods, etc.

i hated the Verio. got crazy high BGs from it. then i would end up over-bolusing and crashing soon after eating. it took me a while to figure out that it was the meter. i cant remember my experiences with the “mini” but of all the One Touch meters, i like the Ultra Two the best. it does sometimes read a bit on the high side, though. but its pretty darn accurate. also, it carries a lot of helpful info and the screen lights up for easy reading in the dark.

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In my estimation all meters that use the same strips behave the same (eg id expect the ultra 2 to produce exact same readings as the ultra mini)… the strip is where the magic happens, the meter is just a meter that measures the strip, like a tape measure… plus some convenience features etc

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i never knew this. this is very interesting info. but then i would like to know why, using the exact same strips, i get such different results from the One Touch meters. but that has been my experience. not all have the same.

I don’t know, I could be wrong, these are just my understandings based on my own observations… not exactly scientific

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neither our mine. i have absolutely no scientific knowledge to offer. just experience and observations.

You and @Sam are both right. The OneTouch meters are manufactured by LifeScan, but they belong to two different families.

The Ultra, Ultra Mini, and Ultra2 are one family, which uses the same strips and the same strip engine. The Verio, VerioSync and VerioFlex are another family, which uses the same strips and the same strip engine. You cannot mix strips from one family and use them with the other. But you can use strips within the same family indifferently.

If you read the documentation, you’ll see that all the properties that are strip-related in one family are exactly the same.

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wow MaryPat, this is very very helpful info. thank you for your input on this “debate” :wink:
we still all just share our experiences in the end. and as we are all completely different people, despite sharing this disease, how on earth could our collective experiences be exactly the same?

just my 2 cents.

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Your estimations are correct. The magic is in the strip. The strip contains the enzyme and the test matrix. The meter just applies a voltage for a period of time and then measures the result.

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That’s what I figured … and yes to clarify I don’t mean just the same brand-name of strip but the exact same strip model… eg all one touch ultra meters should read the same regardless of model, and all verio models should read the same… the contour next should read the same as the contour next usb, etc

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Should, but again this depends a bit on the internals, and how the system is calibrated. The result from the strip is a current during a limited time window. Not every meter will give the same result with the same voltage unless they have the same internals.

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