I wonder if they thought that you were doing wayyyyy more hardcore of a run today than you actually were?
@Eric, when does she get to the point in training that she starts road dumping? Asking for a friend. I hear the elite of the elite do that.
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Okay. That was funny…
But for the record, if it smells like a Huma and comes out of a Huma pack, it’s a Huma.
Also for the record, nobody else out there thought it was Huma. But what are you gonna do? Other than not smear Huma across your butt while running?
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Keep coming around looking for a schedule, @Eric… I’d be a liar if I said I weren’t a little nervous with your promise (threat?) that we start running again this week. 
Mostly excited though…
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Here it is. I also emailed it to you. Please note the change in your rest days. Check it out and let me know if you have any questions.
Nothing to be nervous about. Let’s find your limits and exceed them.
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This is awesome. Thank you. 
I’ll only say that when I got my treadmill… a year ago maybe??.. I once accidentally put it on 9 and nearly got thrown off of it. Like a bucking horse. However, I also hadn’t run anything higher than maybe a 6.5?? at the time. So maybe I’ll get bucked, but maybe I won’t. 
In a sick way, I’m really looking forward to this. 
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Encuentra el viento.
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Imma go google that and will let you know if I agree…
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Aug 26 indoor run
1.5 warm up
4 miles at 8:00/mile
1.5 cool down
15 min ZB
*small banana just before start
Starting BG: 85
Mi 1: 80
*Huma gel
Mi 2: 78
Mi 3: 76
Mi 4: 76
*Huma gel
Mi 5: 81
Mi 6: 87
*Resume basal
Mi 7: 69
RPE 6.5-7ish… Not bad but working…
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Perfect! That’s exactly what we want for this type of workout. “Comfortably hard” is what we are looking for.
Maybe the shorter ZB is a part of the reason for the extra gels. That’s fine, it works, nothing wrong with that. I rarely do a very long ZB before starting.
Taking some carbs while you are running is great, as long as you can get to them. So keep it up!
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This was a fantastic run and BGs!!! Way to go!! 
I have a question re: Huma gels… It looks like you are taking about 45-50g carbs during this workout plus another 20g pre-run, all without basal for approx 1 hour run and no bolus. Is that about right? Do you spike post run? Or do you need to take a bolus post-run?
I have been using Huma, too (thanks to YOUR recommendations!), on my runs but never more than one Huma. For longer runs (1+ hours) I will add the Sports Beans as needed. I don’t usually bolus during a run but rather let Loop trigger temp boluses as if needed. Sometimes they get triggered for a short while after the Huma, but mostly I’m on ZB. Then I usually bolus 1U on the last mile for refuel post run unless I’m already low. This bolus helps with the post-run spike, too, which MAY or may NOT occur!! Is this what you are doing with your Tandem pump? Your numbers (both BGs and Time!!) are so impressive! Keep it up!
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@Trying, I promise to come back and respond… I’m doing a post and run right now so I can try to get my kids to bed. 
Aug 27 outdoor 6.4 mi
Turning off basal—iq couple hours before run so I can have some snacks in time leading up (salad and yogurt and banana!)
15 min ZB
Banana at start
BG 109 before half mile walk to start
Starting BG: 87
Mi 1: 62
*Huma
Mi 2: 49
*Transcend
Mi 3: 110
Mi 4: 100
Mi 5: 119
Mi 6.4: 63
Walk a mile
Mi 7.4: 70
RPE 6 first couple of miles then 5 for the rest (finished last mile at 7:15 pace)
Completely crazy numbers today, but I think it has to do with turning off Basal-IQ before the run like that. I’m guessing I had full insulin most of my afternoon so either needed a longer ZB before starting OR a higher carb snack. Glad I didn’t bolus when I saw that 110… almost did a little rage number but decided against it. 
And now I’ll add that I also walked a couple miles before my run. I forgot about that. New schedule and I’m trying to get the kids walking to and from school…
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That was not exactly in line with today’s plan of easy recovery.
Hey, if you can…
For the Wednesday easy run, if the stars line up and you have the right BG circumstances, try to do it without any pump, carbs, or BG tests.
Do a self-check before you start. Know where you are going, know how much IOB you have, how many carbs are floating around in you, how much ZB you have going on. Calculate what you need for your run, and what your current BG is.
Example, if you are 110 and think you would drop 50 points during your run, how many carbs would you need to finish at 80?
If you are dropping or spiking, or if you can’t hit it, that’s fine. But… if you are able to do it, try it. No pump, no carbs, no meter. Take the right amount of carbs before you begin so that you finish at the right number.
Play safe. If your legs get mushy, test and take some carbs. But if you can make Wednesday’s run all the way through with nothing, that is a good thing to shoot for.
This is sharpening the sword for the battle. It’s good to do this every once-in-a-while.
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Aug 28 outdoor 4.25 miles
-No Basal-IQ (no Sensor), no coffee, no nuthin.
-Yogurt and 4 skittles before heading out the door because I was low.
-Had banana at start of half mile walk.
-1 hr 30 min ZB (because of no Basal-IQ).
Starting BG: 73
Mi 4.25: 63
Walk 3/4 mi
Finish: 81
RPE 5ish
Had my pump, had all my test strips and carbs, but I decided to just try not to touch anything. Very happy with how it went.
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Awesome, warrior!
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Aug 29 indoor
1.5 warm up
10 sets 30 sec @ 9.0 then 1:30 walk
1.5 cool down
-Cutting basal at start
Starting BG: 135
Mi 1: 110
Stretch Break: 96
*Huma
Mi 2.45: 74
Mi 3.5: 75
Mi 5: 105 and done
RPE 5??? This was way easier than I expected it would be. 9.0 felt a little fast—but not hard. Like I just had to get my legs to agree to move that quickly, but they didn’t mind once they were. I was very tempted to jog the recoveries, but I restrained. In all honesty, I think I could’ve done 20 sets like this. Also in all honesty, I hope that doesn’t make you think I could do it up and down hills or anything… Because I don’t think I could. Also, not that you asked, but I did get the full 30 seconds of each set. I gave the treadmill 12 seconds to get to speed before starting the timer… so I think I also could’ve maybe done slightly longer sets…
Really enjoyed it. That’s what I’m saying.
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Perfect!
This was also a little bit of me getting an idea what speed you can run. So the easy recoveries and the 9.0 mph speed was just a gauge to see where you are.
So the next time we do this, we can reduce the recovery time or let you jog the recoveries or increase the interval time.
But I needed to get an idea where you are, so this all sounds great.
And it’s also great that now you know that hitting 6:40 is not a problem!
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nice to know i am not alone in receiving this sage info. i used to think that having to take some carbs was a weakness; now i know its a tool that works great 
i need to keep this in mind for all of my swims. you once told me that if you tell the body what to do, it will do it. i tried this method out and it works, for real!!!
thanks Eric! (again)
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This varies. I almost always take at least 20g during my run, and I sometimes take 40-50. In general, if I have an hour ZB, I might not need that second gel. I rarely need it if I remember to get that 15 at the start of the workout. I’ve been messing around with cutting off my Basal-IQ a few hours before starting, and that would probably explain why I needed that much that particular run. It was a morning of full insulin… so one more detail to have to try to calculate.
That was part 1 of the answer. About the post-run spike. If I had had all of that and didn’t bolus, I’d be through the moon. Generally speaking, in that kind of scenario, I’d aim to turn my basal back on with about a mile left to go. I might do a small bolus if it looks like I’m on the rise at that time. If not, I’ll wait till I’m done and hit it with a big bolus—like 2-4 units… and then will have a banana or yogurt or something. IF I haven’t really been without basal for even half of the run, like if I left it on or turned it back on really early, I would take a smaller bolus. Sometimes a much smaller bolus. For me, it’s really that mix of carbs on TOP of no basal that leads to the big spike, so it’s the potential of the combination in attacking with insulin more than it is one or the other. If that makes any sense. I also have to say that once the spike (and I rarely have them anymore—so this is working well) is last, with all that insulin on board + having just run (another powerful combination), I really have to watch for lows. I counter this by setting a temp basal (approx. 65-70%) for up to 8 hours. But I don’t get that going until I’m out of the woods regarding that spike. These general habits are belong stay clear of both extremes… all while being able to eat like a normal human being—without avoiding food I want or consuming food I don’t want. And… last thought… it all varies. I’ve gotta be flexible. There is a way to balance it all—it’s just a matter of being organized enough to know what I’m going to need…Which makes me sound organized. 
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@Eric, I think I have to do my 10 mile today… Don’t want to chance it. That’s okay, right? 
I put the rest day on Friday because I wasn’t sure how the speed work would feel, but it sounds like yesterday was easy enough that you will be fine for your long run today!
So punch it out!
But keep an eye on the intervals, do it as written.
And…
I’d rather you not have 2 consecutive off days, so see if you can put an easy 3 on either Saturday or Sunday if you can.
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