DN’s Running and Other Mishaps Thread

Thanks, but it wasn’t me, it was Lt. John B. Putnam Jr. I did not reference the name when I posted because I did not have it available. I remembered the quote because I always refer to it for my kids.

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are you a fan of the TB? and if so, how have you used it regarding your work outs? also, do you find that after a hard run, you need to change your ICR for your up coming meals?

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So i used to use temps for my workouts because that’s what I was told to do by my endo. She would have me reduce my basal to 50% an hour before working out. Most of the time I forgot— no surprise there— but the other problem was that I didn’t really understand any of what I understand now. So I would do it or not, but it never had to do with my numbers or my status leading up to it. It was all workout dependent— I’m working out in an hour, so I’m cutting the basal… as, meanwhile, my blood sugar sits confidently at a 275. I honestly don’t use it any longer before my workout or during. It’s either a full cut or no cut at all. I make up for the difference with my carb intake.

After the workout, however, I’ve found I really like a 20-25% reduction within an hour of stopping. I usually run this up until about 4 or 5 in the morning. I haven’t really looked at this yet though to see if it could use some tweaking, but my guess is it can. The harder the workout, the greater the cause for reduction, but, because it’s highs I fear, I’m still reluctant to cut it more than 25%. I figure Basal-IQ can help out over night though, so it’s working out rather well.

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Probably? But I don’t… or at least not on a conscious-level. I still need my insulin after workouts, but I genuinely need less. As long as I’m trimming it somewhere, I think I’m staying close enough to a reasonable delivery that I’m not going too far in either direction. I would have to be careful trimming in more than one category though. If I’m going to cut my basal, then I most likely need all (or close) of the insulin for my food. If I don’t want to cut my basal, which I sometimes do out of pure stubbornness, then I’m going to get a lot more food “for free”. Actually, I even make a decision based on whether or not I want to snack. If I really want to eat that night, I leave my basal alone and let it run too high. Then it’s snack city. If I would like not to have to consume triple the calories I burned, I cut the basal and snack sparingly. It’s good to feel like I have a choice in that department. I’m not sure if any of that makes sense…

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you are comfortable working out at such a high BG? how did you end up so high? did you eat more cookies? :rofl:

Today’s run was very, very uneventful. So uneventful I almost have nothing to say about it, but let me try anyway. :smiley:

Had a rough start this morning wrestling with my t:slim cartridge… and losing the match. Because I was distracted trying to get insulin into my pump, I forgot to drink the second coffee I had prebolused for, which sent me spiraling AND prompted Basal-IQ to hold off all of my insulin (even after getting the cartridge to obey), which sent me high!

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Anyway. So one cup of coffee. That’s my point. One cup of coffee, no ZB, and nothing else at play. But there was that cup…

Starting BG: 126
*Cut basal at start
1/2 mi: 108
*half transcend
Mi 1: 101
Mi 2: 83
*other half of transcend
Mi 3: 77
Mi 3.5: 77
*Resume basal
Mi 4: 57

RPE 5… except for when I was spacewalking.

I was wobbly, it was disorganized, but the run itself was fine. I just recognize that the need for extra tests and that big ugly drop were a result of having the basal… which was a result of having had the coffee…

So… uneventful.

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call me ignorant, but is Basal-IQ the new type of pump that maintains your BG levels in a “target” range?
very curious, as i have never heard of this before.

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you make complete sense. just wondering, though, if you want to eat something, instead of leaving your basal “high” why dont you just adjust your basal rate as needed and then do a bolus for your snack? just curious. i know that the way that you are describing sounds very much like what Eric does and encourages me to do sometimes as well.

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I would if you were, but…

Kind of. It’s the Tandem T:slim version of the Medtronic 670G’s Manual Mode with SmartGuard suspends. Both pumps make use of your sensor values to suspend your insulin when you’re predicted to drop below a certain value. I think when you say “maintains your BG levels in a ‘target’ range”, you may be referring to Auto Mode—- which about that I’ll just say there’s more than meets the eye. :grimacing:

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It just doesn’t work as well for me. The difference between letting my basal rate run a little high and running a normal basal and doing food boluses is that in the first scenario, I feel less diabetic. I can eat when I want to eat. To an extent, I can eat what I want to eat. My blood sugar runs a little lower, and I get to snack or eat carbs at meals without seeing the big spikes. Less waiting. The push from my insulin means I’m often getting to grab something right as I’m thinking about a snack anyway, and it’s just in time to give my blood sugar a little bump. So I will add more insulin, have a snack and repeat in an hour or two. If I run regular rates, I need to rely more on pre-boluses, and I usually float for a while after I’ve eaten. This, however, lends itself to lower calorie eating if that’s what I’m trying to do. So it really depends on whether I want to be able to eat freely. It’s not always a good thing to be able to do that.

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Wow, so inspiring! Perfect!!! :slight_smile:

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I’m sitting in the car right now. Have been for over an hour, and there’s traffic as far as the eye can see. I did my 7 mile run, showered so quickly I did t even get clean, and now am sitting here… with all my anxiety about the last time I did a 7 mile run on a Saturday and then got in the car for 2 hours. Very, very nervous.

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Can’t see me, but I’m doing the made it through the traffic, and my hip is good dance right now… and I had a great run today, so life is good.

I had a coffee… almost 2 hours before my run today, but that’s okay. There’s been nothing so far that has told me I can’t do that. I did a small IV to cover it and then cut my basal off an hour before heading out the door. No IOB, no carbs, no activity—- just a nice, stable 140 as I headed up to the path. It was a little higher than I would’ve liked, but I obviously wasn’t going to try to correct it so…

Starting BG: 143
Mi 1: 105 (fast drop, but I knew I had an hour of ZB)
Mi 2: 93
Mi 3: 91
*Huma gel and .5 unit bolus
Mi 4: —-
Mi 5: 80
Mi 6: 78
Mi 7: 83

RPE was a little more than usual, but I also did it in 58 minutes. I wasn’t watching any pace and was outside enjoying the air, but I was working a little. First 3 miles were about 5.5, but then I hit a wall in the middle and was at like 7. Funny thing about it though is that I thought I was all of a sudden exhausted and was thinking I hadn’t even gotten to 4 miles yet since the Running app lady didn’t announce it. When I finally looked down, I was past 5… and found my RPE to be an instant 5.5 again. I didn’t feel tired again until the last quarter mile, but that wasn’t anywhere near what I had felt when I got up in my head and wore myself out. :smiley:

What else? I don’t think anything. Very happy. :hibiscus::beetle:

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Week 5.

30 miles total this week. You need to be eating well and sleeping well. Play time is over, cupcake.

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Finally. :heart_eyes:

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Any one of these is easy. Keep your RPE in check. The cumulative effect is what you are looking for.

I know. I’m only kidding. That looks like a good, hard week, and I’m sure I’ll be more intimidated once the excitement wears off. I’m particularly excited about Saturday. I’m just trying to decide if I should do it outside where I’ve had a harder time holding to the pace, or if I should do it on the treadmill since it’s only my second one…

I’m going to get in bed now to make sure I get my sleep. :grin:

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Caught up! Nice work! The numbers are amazing and you should be so proud. :hugs::star_struck:

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I need to give you a task/shopping list. Your race is only 26 days away. You have some of these already, I think.

  1. Get your watch figured out. Have your watch available when you call, and call Garmin support and get it setup correctly. You really want to have that for your race. You can put whatever other data fields you want on there, but total miles, running time, and current pace are what I want you to have on the main screen to use for your paces. Get that done this week. Don’t be screwing with Runkeeper or a phone when racing.

  2. You have relatively new running shoes right? You don’t want to be running on 250 mile shoes.

  3. SPIBelts. 2 single-pocket belts which will have your gels and carbs , and 1 double-pocket belt which will have pump stuff, some spare syringes and emergency carbs.

  4. Lancets - buy some 30 gauge lancets. The Contour meter gives jacked up readings if it does not have a good drop of blood on it, so get some 30 gauge lancets. You don’t want to be hunting for a blood drop while you are running, so trust me on the 30 gauge. That will help. Buy these 30 gauge pull-top lancets, which is better than the twist top. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003T7TR3W/

  5. Buy a 4 pack of these rings. It needs to be size 7.5-8. Color does not matter. I will tell you what to do with them after you get them. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078S9DNDF/

  6. Spare Contour meter and enough strips. Don’t run out of strips the day before. You should already have a spare.

  7. As many Huma gels, Stingers, Transcend gels as you will need for the race. Don’t go through all of them and then find yourself the day before the race without any. Put enough aside so you have them for the race.

  8. It helps to have a retractable key chain to hook your lancing device up to. That prevents you from dropping it and keeps it easy to use. Get a small light-weight one, something like this. https://www.amazon.com/Creative-Expansion-Chain-Anti-theft-Buckle/dp/B07CWP35X3/

Go through that list. Do or buy all of those things I listed if you don’t already have them.

Do #1 right now please.

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Ughh.

But my music is on my phone…?

Just bought them, wore them one time, had ridiculous foot pain the next day. Try them again??

Done.

Are these different than the ones you sent me?? I’ve been carrying those for my run and just tucking them in the sweatband. If I’m not being a wimp, it takes me a quick prick and I get plenty of blood. If I’m being a wimp, it takes me 4 quick pricks. :roll_eyes:

Is this a joke? This is a 4-pk of men’s wedding rings… :thinking:

Got it. :wink:

Thank you for the reminder. I’ve still got a bunch left, but somehow all of the ones with caffeine have disappeared. :star_struck:

And no Stinger though. Not after what you told me about tapioca syrup. No thank you.

Even if I’ve been keeping it in my armband like I described?

Ugh.

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