# Was getting excited, until the 8th paragraph

**URL:** <https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/was-getting-excited-until-the-8th-paragraph/1020>\
**Category:** T1 Research\
**Created:** [May 23, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/was-getting-excited-until-the-8th-paragraph/1020 "2017-05-23T15:28:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/was-getting-excited-until-the-8th-paragraph/1020/1 "2017-05-23T15:28:57Z")

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> **[Xconomy: ViaCyte Raises $10M, Moves to Human Trial with New Diabetes Product](https://xconomy.com/san-diego/2017/05/23/viacyte-raises-10m-moves-to-human-trial-with-new-diabetes-product/)**
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> San Diego-based ViaCyte said it is ready to move into human testing with a new product intended for patients with Type 1 diabetes who are at high risk for

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**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/was-getting-excited-until-the-8th-paragraph/1020/2 "2017-05-23T15:49:29Z")

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Me too 🙂

FYI, this is the section in question:

> the membrane is not designed to protect against a patient’s immune system. So PEC-Direct patients would also get immune-suppressant drugs.

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**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/was-getting-excited-until-the-8th-paragraph/1020/3 "2017-05-23T15:51:55Z")

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Seems like they are also working on one that doesn’t need to involve immuno-suppressive drugs which would be of more interest, but isn’t what the money is being raised for.

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**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/was-getting-excited-until-the-8th-paragraph/1020/4 "2017-05-23T15:53:47Z")

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> [@Chris](#):
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> they are also working on one that doesn’t need to involve immuno-suppressive drugs which would be of more interest, but isn’t what the money is being raised for.

That’s really too bad. Swapping the slavery of diabetes for the slavery of immuno-suppressants is not automatically a win.

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**Author:** ![TiaG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/tiag/32/594_2.png) [@TiaG](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TiaG)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/was-getting-excited-until-the-8th-paragraph/1020/5 "2017-05-23T16:00:48Z")

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The immune-protecting one is called Encaptra I believe. That one is earlier along; Phase I/II, and the cells don’t secrete enough insulin yet to make it wroth their while… still, even PEC-Direct would likely be a boon for many long-timers, because now most can’t qualify for an islet cell transplant unless some other organ is failing. There just aren’t enough pancreatic cells to go around, even for the people who meet these treatment guidelines.

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**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/was-getting-excited-until-the-8th-paragraph/1020/6 "2017-05-23T16:23:45Z")

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> [@TiaG](#):
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> The immune-protecting one is called Encaptra I believe.

@TiaG, your knowledge of this field is really encyclopedic.

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**Author:** ![kenrick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/kenrick/32/113_2.png) [@kenrick](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/kenrick)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/was-getting-excited-until-the-8th-paragraph/1020/7 "2017-05-24T20:35:25Z")

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They had some setbacks with the non-immunosuppressant version ([http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/biotech/sd-me-biotech-adjustments-20161007-story.html](http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/biotech/sd-me-biotech-adjustments-20161007-story.html)) with the immune system walling off the implant but they are learning from their trials for the next version. I wish there was more news/updates in general on progress in diabetes research, it seems there are lots of stories of new advances mostly untested in humans, and then we never hear about them again…
