# Using Your Square Bolus

**URL:** <https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-your-square-bolus/1556>\
**Category:** New T1/LADA\
**Created:** [August 11, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-your-square-bolus/1556 "2017-08-11T01:06:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-your-square-bolus/1556/21 "2017-08-11T16:32:39Z")

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thanks. i get it now.

> [@Eric](#):
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> In Medtronic world, if you say 95%, that is 5% less.
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> But in OmniPod world, you would call it a 5% decrease.

okay, that clarifies things a lot.

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**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-your-square-bolus/1556/22 "2017-08-11T16:35:16Z")

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> [@Eric](#):
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> A “95% increase” is basically 195% of normal.

wow !!! that is an enormous amount of insulin **!!!**

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**Author:** ![ClaudnDaye](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/claudndaye/32/5_2.png) [@ClaudnDaye](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/ClaudnDaye)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-your-square-bolus/1556/23 "2017-08-11T16:38:01Z")

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> [@daisymae](#):
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> wow !!! that is an enormous amount of insulin !!!

Definitely a lot for anyone, but only applied after meals when those huge spikes occur.

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**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-your-square-bolus/1556/24 "2017-08-11T16:59:02Z")

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on the TUD site (for offensive numb sculls ) i once read that people use their square bolus for when they go to long, social setting meals, wherein you will be noshing for an “extended” period of time. or holiday meals, like thanksgiving, for example.

i have yet to understand this; how can a person know what their insulin needs will be when they dont even know how long the event will last, and as well, how many carbs should be accounted for. they do **not** do dual boluses at all. the only thing i can think of, which is simply a guess, is that they are insulin stacking.

does anyone here, on our site, heard of this method of insulin dispension? it sounds ludicriss to me.

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**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-your-square-bolus/1556/25 "2017-08-11T17:09:04Z")

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> [@daisymae](#):
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> i have yet to understand this; how can a person know what their insulin needs will be when they dont even know how long the event will last, and as well, how many carbs should be accounted for.

If you start a two hour square, and then after an hour you think you have had enough, you could just stop it. Or if you are done eating, or the food isn’t good, you just stop the square. Just because you set it and start it, doesn’t mean you need to keep it going.

But like I said, I don’t do it that way.

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**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-your-square-bolus/1556/26 "2017-08-11T17:10:53Z")

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> [@Eric](#):
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> Just because you set it and start it, doesn’t mean you need to keep it going.

thank you; now it makes sense to me. i always forget about that very simple function.

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**Author:** ![ClaudnDaye](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/claudndaye/32/5_2.png) [@ClaudnDaye](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/ClaudnDaye)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-your-square-bolus/1556/27 "2017-08-11T17:12:37Z")

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Being able to start and stop is very nice – if you need it, you keep it going, if you don’t need it you stop it and you don’t have to worry about going low. If you straight bolus for X amount (assuming you’re going to eat X amount), and then you don’t eat X amount, you will be feeding the insulin later so that you don’t go low.

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**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-your-square-bolus/1556/28 "2017-08-11T17:12:51Z")

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> [@Eric](#):
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> But like I said, I don’t do it that way.

you dont do anything **that** way 😉

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**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-your-square-bolus/1556/29 "2017-08-11T21:42:50Z")

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> [@Eric](#):
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> But like I said, I don’t do it that wa

how **do** you do it? curious me, as usual 😄

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**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-your-square-bolus/1556/30 "2017-08-11T22:16:41Z")

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> [@daisymae](#):
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> how do you do it?

When it comes to food and insulin, I just use the force.

What is my BG, which direction is my BG going, how quickly am I going up or down, how much insulin is left in me, how active have I been, what kind of food is it, how have I been responding to insulin today, how long before I eat, will I have food available to cover a low later, what is for dessert, how hungry am I, how do I want to space my bolus for timing, what would my pancreas do it it was working correctly, how slow is this dang waitress at the restaurant…

As I have shared with you before, bolus calculators don’t look at things like that!

The best bolus calculator DM has, is the one sitting on her neck. 😉

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**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-your-square-bolus/1556/31 "2017-08-11T22:37:24Z")

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> [@Eric](#):
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> how slow is this dang waitress at the restaurant…

if i had a hundred dollars for every time i have thought that, i would have a bank account like Trump’s 🤣

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