# Using alcohol to slow down gluconeogenesis

**URL:** <https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-alcohol-to-slow-down-gluconeogenesis/478>\
**Category:** Treatment\
**Tags:** diet, carb-counting, alcohol, liver, gng\
**Created:** [April 13, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-alcohol-to-slow-down-gluconeogenesis/478 "2017-04-13T17:20:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![britt\_j](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/britt_j/32/55_2.png) [@britt\_j](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/britt_j)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-alcohol-to-slow-down-gluconeogenesis/478/1 "2017-04-13T17:20:39Z")

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Alcohol prevents gluconeogenesis. This is handy for larger amounts of protein.

[EDIT] Forked from [Do you TAG? If so, how?](http://forum.diabetesunlimited.com/t/do-you-tag-if-so-how/474/11)

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**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-alcohol-to-slow-down-gluconeogenesis/478/2 "2017-04-13T16:08:36Z")

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> [@Do You TAG? If so, how?](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/do-you-tag-if-so-how/474/3):
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> Alcohol prevents gluconeogenesis. This is handy for larger amounts of protein.

Does is simply delay it, or prevent it altogether?

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**Author:** ![britt\_j](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/britt_j/32/55_2.png) [@britt\_j](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/britt_j)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-alcohol-to-slow-down-gluconeogenesis/478/3 "2017-04-13T16:42:38Z")

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It _seems_ to prevent it. I emphasize “seems” as it may just slow it down _so_ much that it trickles in and works with my slight over-basal for fat?

This is something that I’ve been meaning to research on a rainy day…

I’d also add that it doesn’t take much alcohol for me. 120 ml of a low residual sugar, high alcohol content wine or 15 ml of rum or vodka work well.

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**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-alcohol-to-slow-down-gluconeogenesis/478/4 "2017-04-13T16:44:28Z")

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> [@Do You TAG? If so, how?](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/do-you-tag-if-so-how/474/6):
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> It seems to prevent it. I emphasize “seems” as it may just slow it down so much that it trickles in and works with my slight over-basal for fat?

So interesting. I know that the liver prioritizes alcohol processing before insulin/glucose. It was not quite clear to me what exactly happens with the postponement. I would love to read more about this.

[EDIT] This prioritization, btw, is what kills a good number of Type 1s in early adulthood.

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**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-alcohol-to-slow-down-gluconeogenesis/478/5 "2017-04-13T17:55:02Z")

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14 posts were merged into an existing topic: [Alochol, teens and diabetes](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/alochol-teens-and-diabetes/481)

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**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-alcohol-to-slow-down-gluconeogenesis/478/20 "2017-04-13T17:50:08Z")

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Forking the thread again to [Alcohol, teens and diabetes](http://forum.diabetesunlimited.com/t/alochol-teens-and-diabetes/481/11) 🙂 Great topics!

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-alcohol-to-slow-down-gluconeogenesis/478/21 "2017-04-13T17:51:33Z")

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Perhaps the kidney clears the alcohol before the hepatic pathway returns to its usual state?

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**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/using-alcohol-to-slow-down-gluconeogenesis/478/22 "2017-04-13T18:16:54Z")

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> [@britt\_j](#):
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> Perhaps the kidney clears the alcohol before the hepatic pathway returns to its usual state?

That makes total sense. But by then the gut may have processed food further? So possibly there is (a lot) less protein available for gluconeogenesis?
