# Unexpectedly Robust Discussion of Bidets and Toilet Construction
**URL:** https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434
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**Created:** [March 11, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434 "2020-03-11T17:43:53Z")
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### Author:  [@jbowler](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/jbowler)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2023, 12:35am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/122 "2023-01-09T00:35:06Z")
> [@Strat1117](#):
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> In Malaysia, the choices are ‘sit’ or ‘squat’. IF you’re lucky.
I remember, in my prior Brit existence, being in Olivetti’s town in Italy after a long hard day of meetings. I had to take a ■■■■ (hey, diabetic). So I went to what I now quaintly call the “restroom”. Brilliant, clean (thank God) porcelain; two clearly dimpled places to put my feet and a hole between.
But I was a Brit and now I’m even less prepared. It was knocking off time; the whole place (the “restroom”) was full of people doing the same thing. ■■■■, ■■■■, ■■■■. Talk about a moment of awakening.
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### Author:  [@jbowler](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/jbowler)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/123 "2023-01-09T00:37:58Z")
> [@Sam](#):
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> need a flat screwdriver
Better on American toilets not to use that. Hand tight is enough.
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### Author:  [@jbowler](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/jbowler)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2023, 12:46am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/124 "2023-01-09T00:46:27Z")
> [@Strat1117](#):
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> We have sewers in my neighborhood, not cesspools
No; cesspools are fine, the fat just floats to the top. Sewers and septic systems get clogged. I’m a firm believer in cesspools; the other two just hide the problem. Alas I live in Oregon so I’m not allowed to implement one. I, and my wife, generally join the pope and ■■■■ in the woods but we still ■■■■ in the septic so have to suck it up once every few years.
I remember being in [Lassen volcanic national park](https://www.nps.gov/lavo/index.htm) with a bright orange 6" trowel and clear instructions to cart the paper out. It was a life changing experience; the ability to actually see not just the stars but the whole milky way.
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