# Unexpectedly Robust Discussion of Bidets and Toilet Construction **URL:** https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434 **Category:** Share **Created:** [March 11, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434 "2020-03-11T17:43:53Z") **Posts on this page:** 20 **Page:** 6
### Author: ![Trying](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/trying/32/4078_2.png) [@Trying](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Trying) #### Post date: [December 15, 2020, 2:50am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/102 "2020-12-15T02:50:10Z")
I definitely have the inexpensive and easily installable one :-). Hwr, I do see the benefit of ones with a dryer! The ones in Japan even have music and those are quite exquisite! 🙂 ---
### Author: ![jim26](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/jim26/32/9780_2.png) [@jim26](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/jim26) #### Post date: [December 15, 2020, 3:00am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/103 "2020-12-15T03:00:45Z")
I’m a little cheaper than most people. 🤣 ![ETYiqbkXsAEidZn](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fudiabetes/original/2X/7/774a30c4c1639c099dd36a19bc78b512cfe759ce.jpeg) ---
### Author: ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam) #### Post date: [December 15, 2020, 3:42am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/104 "2020-12-15T03:42:55Z")
I was typically a 4 square x 4 wipe kinda guy so 16 squares per event on a good day… With this I typically use 2 total. No joke. Before I was an aficionado I didn’t really understand and I thought everything would be drenched just like you just got out of the shower and drying would be a big deal but that’s just not how it really works out. Somehow it just really doesn’t get that wet. A lot of people use no tp at all with them. ---
### Author: ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris) #### Post date: [December 15, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/105 "2020-12-15T16:23:42Z")
The 8 year old boy in me chuckles every time I come to this thread and see that for the last 10 months we have been having on ongoing discussion about poop. ---
### Author: ![jbowler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e274bd/32.png) [@jbowler](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/jbowler) #### Post date: [December 17, 2020, 4:40am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/106 "2020-12-17T04:40:59Z")
> [@Jen](#): > > I did try a “travel” version and was thoroughly unimpressed (I actually felt the need to use _more_ toilet paper than usual to dry up the water!). So that’s a big part of why I haven’t bothered trying the larger one. Right; we have to let it drip off otherwise it is as you say; toilet paper sucks as a towel. I don’t see any problem getting up afterward and dripping on the floor, but I live out in the woods; sometimes I simply step out of the shower and just keep on doing whatever it was I was doing before I took a shower, Different perspectives. ---
### Author: ![annalim9848](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bcef8e/32.png) [@annalim9848](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/annalim9848) #### Post date: [December 26, 2022, 3:17am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/107 "2022-12-26T03:17:43Z")
Can I install it by myself? How to install a bidet toilet seat? ---
### Author: ![Strat1117](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/strat1117/32/10482_2.png) [@Strat1117](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Strat1117) #### Post date: [December 26, 2022, 4:52am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/108 "2022-12-26T04:52:14Z")
In Malaysia, the choices are ‘sit’ or ‘squat’. IF you’re lucky. ---
### Author: ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam) #### Post date: [December 26, 2022, 8:36am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/109 "2022-12-26T08:36:19Z")
Super easy… takes about 10 minutes. Turn off water, flush toilet, disconnect water line under tank, install tee adapter and hose, reconnect water line, then remove toilet seat screws, sandwhich bidet between the seat and the toilet, reinstall screws, and you’re off to the races need a flat screwdriver, and pliers or adjustable wrench for the water line ---
### Author: ![Strat1117](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/strat1117/32/10482_2.png) [@Strat1117](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Strat1117) #### Post date: [December 28, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/110 "2022-12-28T18:54:24Z")
Of course, there’s always this: ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fudiabetes/original/2X/a/a66418ac16b004ef68d6446e257006c84395bf47.jpeg) 🚽😁 ---
### Author: ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam) #### Post date: [December 28, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/111 "2022-12-28T19:07:03Z")
Those are pretty controversial. Nothing about them actually makes them “flushable” except the labeling… ---
### Author: ![Strat1117](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/strat1117/32/10482_2.png) [@Strat1117](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Strat1117) #### Post date: [December 28, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/112 "2022-12-28T19:22:33Z")
I was unaware of that. I guess I have good plumbing - been using them for years without a problem. We have sewers in my neighborhood, not cesspools, so maybe that makes a difference? ---
### Author: ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam) #### Post date: [December 28, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/113 "2022-12-28T19:23:09Z")
Somewhere a baby turtle is choking on them… ---
### Author: ![Strat1117](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/strat1117/32/10482_2.png) [@Strat1117](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Strat1117) #### Post date: [December 28, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/114 "2022-12-28T19:23:31Z")
Ouch! 💡 ---
### Author: ![bkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/da6949/32.png) [@bkh](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/bkh) #### Post date: [December 28, 2022, 8:09pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/115 "2022-12-28T20:09:34Z")
> [@Strat1117](#): > > We have sewers in my neighborhood, not cesspools, so maybe that makes a difference? Not really. Search for “fatburg” to get an idea of the trouble it causes. ---
### Author: ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam) #### Post date: [December 28, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/116 "2022-12-28T20:11:21Z")
![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fudiabetes/original/2X/f/ff39ad5a1006bf9557361435a20a755f84735e6c.jpeg) ---
### Author: ![Strat1117](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/strat1117/32/10482_2.png) [@Strat1117](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Strat1117) #### Post date: [December 28, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/117 "2022-12-28T20:17:02Z")
I found it in Wikipedia under ‘fatberg’: > **[Fatberg](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatberg)** > > A fatberg is a rock-like mass of waste matter in a sewer system formed by the combination of flushed non-biodegradable solids, such as wet wipes, and fat, oil and grease (FOG) deposits. The handling of FOG waste and the buildup of its deposits are a long-standing problem in waste management, with "fatberg" a more recent neologism. Fatbergs have formed in sewers worldwide, with the rise in usage of disposable (so-called "flushable") cloths. Several prominent examples were discovered in Fatbergs... I had no idea. I lazily assumed that the word “flushable” on the package meant they were actually safe to flush and implied biodegradability. Now that you and @Sam have opened my eyes, I shall discontinue their use forthwith, if not sooner. ---
### Author: ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris) #### Post date: [December 28, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/118 "2022-12-28T22:34:04Z")
Kind of crazy (the fatbergs) and much credit should be given to the men and women that keep our sewers running. I for one wouldn’t want to manage that in my job. ---
### Author: ![Strat1117](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/strat1117/32/10482_2.png) [@Strat1117](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Strat1117) #### Post date: [December 30, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/119 "2022-12-30T14:45:15Z")
I still feel guilty about this, and I’m not arguing with you guys at all - I’m assuming you’re absolutely correct - but in my own defense, this labeling (which is much more than just the word “flushable”) is pretty (deliberately?) misleading, no? ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fudiabetes/original/2X/a/ab2fb9b3e2aa4b2043b64465a11e9b9305333739.jpeg) Sorry for the fuzzy pic, can’t seem to get my camera to focus on the package instead of the background, but I think it’s legible enough. ---
### Author: ![bkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/da6949/32.png) [@bkh](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/bkh) #### Post date: [December 30, 2022, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/120 "2022-12-30T16:12:42Z")
Lovely. What’s the disclaimer text that goes with the asterisk on the “it’s perfectly safe to use this” sentence? ---
### Author: ![Strat1117](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/strat1117/32/10482_2.png) [@Strat1117](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Strat1117) #### Post date: [December 30, 2022, 4:29pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/121 "2022-12-30T16:29:43Z")
\*“NOT RECOMMENDED FOR USE IN MOTOR HOMES OR WITH BASEMENT PUMP SYSTEMS” I didn’t think that part was particularly relevant to the discussion? Either way, they’re clearly trying to make us think these are environmentally safer than ordinary wipes which, if untrue, is pretty shady, imho. [Previous page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434.md?page=7)