# Unexpectedly Robust Discussion of Bidets and Toilet Construction
**URL:** https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434
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**Created:** [March 11, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434 "2020-03-11T17:43:53Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@CatLady](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/CatLady)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/21 "2020-03-12T20:51:47Z")
We have a Toto Washlet (Japanese model). đ
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### Author:  [@Breezy](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Breezy)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/22 "2020-03-12T21:35:42Z")
Until I came to live in the U.S., every place had bidets. They were a standard plumbing fixture. When I talked with U.S. plumbers about running hot water to the toilet as well as the cold because I wanted to install a toilet seat bidet, all I got were snickers. Never did get the hot water. Of course, this is very rural WisconsinâŚ
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### Author:  [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/23 "2020-03-12T22:35:47Z")
Just ordered a cheap one from amazon. You can count on me for a full report.
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### Author:  [@Jen](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Jen)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 2:12am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/24 "2020-03-13T02:12:39Z")
As I thought, my landlord doesnât know much about toilets, but said as long as itâs something I can remove when I move out, I can install it. She did advise that I get someone who knows what theyâre doing to do it, lest I cause a flood in my or neighbouring apartments (as Iâd be on the hook for the expenses, though I do have insurance, but who knows if theyâd cover a flood I directly caused).
Iâll have to do a bit more research before I order one. I do plan to order a travel one just to have in case toilet paper runs out. đ I have a colleague who ordered toilet paper on Amazon and said the shipping was 4-6 weeks out. Thatâs just crazy!
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### Author:  [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 2:14am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/25 "2020-03-13T02:14:21Z")
Itâs way easy⌠anyone could do it it doesnât require any skill. Iâm confident you could easily do it by feel even if you canât see it very wellâŚ
The âtravel onesâ Iâve seen are just basically powered spray bottles instead of the one that mounts under toilet seat.
Basically you need to remove the two screws that hold down toilet seat, place the attachment underneath the seat, then put the two screws back in. Then close the valve on wall, flush toilet disconnect tube from toilet, attach fitting to tube and reattach to valve and turn back on.
There will be some dripping when you disconnect the tube from the toilet but shouldnât be more than you could catch with a bath towel
I donât know how well you can see it but thereâs an animated installation video in the pictures here
Luxe Bidet Neo 110 - Fresh Water Non-Electric Mechanical Bidet Toilet Seat Attachment (blue and white) [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009ZLRSJ6/ref=cm\_sw\_r\_cp\_api\_i\_DXUAEbWWY9P1G](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009ZLRSJ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_DXUAEbWWY9P1G)
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### Author:  [@T1Allison](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/T1Allison)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/26 "2020-03-13T02:19:16Z")
> [@Sam](#):
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> You can count on me for a full report.
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### Author:  [@Jason99](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Jason99)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/27 "2020-03-13T02:41:13Z")
You need a power source too. There wonât be an electrical outlet right by the toilet, an electrician is going to need to do some work. This will be the costly part.
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### Author:  [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/28 "2020-03-13T02:41:37Z")
These types donât need power source
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### Author:  [@Jason99](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Jason99)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 2:46am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/29 "2020-03-13T02:46:46Z")
How does the water temperature get regulated? The seat temp? Music?
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### Author:  [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 3:04am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/30 "2020-03-13T03:04:38Z")
The temperature is regulated by your cold water supply, I would guess it would get less use in the winter, unless you like a brisk spray.
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### Author:  [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 3:05am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/31 "2020-03-13T03:05:46Z")
Well unless youâre really getting after it Iâd think thereâd be enough water in the line thatâs inside the insulation of the house so that it should be room temperature
@Jason99 There is no temp regulation on the cheapest ones. On the second cheapest ones you can run a line to sink hot water line but that seems stupid because youâd have to run it for long enough for hot water to reach the sink⌠everyone mentions in the reviews that the room temperature ones arenât bad
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### Author:  [@Jason99](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Jason99)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 3:17am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/32 "2020-03-13T03:17:28Z")
The version that was in our Hotel had an LCD touchscreen remote that you could change the temperature of the water and the seat. Itâs very strange the first time you use it. The Japanese have to have everything high tech.
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### Author:  [@T1Allison](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/T1Allison)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 3:22am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/33 "2020-03-13T03:22:49Z")
> [@Sam](#):
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> Iâm also ordering a bidet attachment for the toilet
I want it modified so that itâs operated by a foot pedal like a sewing machine. I donât want to be touching some twist knob thatâs covered in fecal overspray! Thatâs how youâre gonna get the Covid19. The bidet and the poop spores in the hot zone there. The panic TP buying is going to ironically be the end of us all!
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### Author:  [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 3:24am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/34 "2020-03-13T03:24:26Z")
I canât help but wonder why people who feel they need 100 rolls of toilet paper for a potential 2 week quarantine hadnât seen a doctor before this virusâŚ
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### Author:  [@jbowler](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/jbowler)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/35 "2020-03-13T03:38:48Z")
> [@Jason99](#):
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> You need a power source too.
Only for the more expensive varieties. The power source for the ones I have is just a standard bathroom GFCI but the source is for heating the **seat** , you know, the round thing you sit on. It has an entertainingly accurate eco-mode which guesses when you are going to sit on it and, supposedly, heats it up beforehand [it does seem to work].
It **doesnât** heat the water; that requires way, way more power than the bathroom has even at low flow rates and would, indeed, require a separate power supply.
My ground water is 53F. I can see there might be a slight problem in Alaska, but so far my butt has just felt happy.
These things also donât require power for the spray; they work on the system pressure. So for me when the power is out (a not infrequent occurence) the seat is cold but the butt pleasure is still there. Of course, I am speaking as an unreformed male; I am reliably informed that the opposite sex has two forms of pleasure.
Oh, yes; European bidets and, indeed, the two forms thereof (rim and spray, IRC, I canât remember the code terminology) do have both hot and cold supplies. European bidets are kindof different to the Japanese interpretation (which is pretty much what we are talking about); a European bidet can be done with an American shower stall (spray) or bath (rim).
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### Author:  [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/36 "2020-03-13T03:43:59Z")
> [@jbowler](#):
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> but the butt pleasure is still there
Oh my, I never thought that statement would be uttered on FUD and I wouldnât have to do my job as a mod and remove it. Congrats. Slow clap
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### Author:  [@Jason99](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Jason99)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 3:45am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/37 "2020-03-13T03:45:24Z")
The version you have doesnât have a powered nozel that you can move back and forth remotely?
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### Author:  [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 3:47am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/38 "2020-03-13T03:47:01Z")
> [@jbowler](#):
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> I am reliably informed that the opposite sex has two forms of pleasure.
Great⌠as if women donât spend enough time in the bathroom already
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### Author:  [@jbowler](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/jbowler)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 3:57am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/39 "2020-03-13T03:57:04Z")
> [@T1Allison](#):
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> I donât want to be touching some twist knob thatâs covered in fecal overspray!
I never clean my hands **before** pushing and holding the flush lever, I clean them afterward. I also love the way TP sometimes doesnât quite work and I feel I really need to wash my hands.
These days I donât face those curious dichotomies; I push the spray button before I start to wipe and therefore almost all of the shxt has been removed before I put my hands anywhere near it.
Still have to watch out for that lever though. Did the previous person disinfect it? Have you?
[I should add: the seat I have, and the one I encountered in Japan, have a âdryâ mode, which does require electricity, @Jason99 may wish to add that to his list. The dry mode fans hot air in the general direction of my posterior and therefore, if I care to sit on the pot for the required 60 seconds, I donât even need to wipe!]
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### Author:  [@jbowler](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/jbowler)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2020, 4:08am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/unexpectedly-robust-discussion-of-bidets-and-toilet-construction/9434/40 "2020-03-13T04:08:44Z")
> [@Jason99](#):
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> The version you have doesnât have a powered nozel that you can move back and forth remotely?
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You are correct, that was bullshxt. I had forgotten that the entertaining backwards and forwards âmassageâ option which I always used requires power and, therefore, that the extending of the nozzle does also require power.
I guess for US use we could put one of those pedal cycle electric generators in front of the pot and simply peddle to generate the power for the nozzle.
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