# Strictly About Pizza **URL:** \ **Category:** New T1/LADA\ **Created:** [January 23, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314 "2018-01-23T21:45:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TiaG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/tiag/32/594_2.png) [@TiaG](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TiaG)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/21 "2018-01-23T23:22:38Z")
I was hovering around 135-140 mg/dL pretty much all night. For reference, most other things, I spiked up to about 120 and was down within an hour, and my fasting BG seemed to linger in the 60 to 80 range for most of the day. ---
**Author:** ![Katers87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a9adbd/32.png) [@Katers87](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Katers87)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/22 "2018-01-23T23:25:18Z")
Ah, ok. So not terribly high. Interesting though! Thanks for sharing 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Beacher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a6a055/32.png) [@Beacher](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Beacher)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/23 "2018-01-23T23:43:32Z")
> [@TiaG](#): > > my theory is that it’s some combination of the high fat+ high carbs. The carbs cause the spikes but the fat makes absorption extra extra slow. Just my thoughts though, I have no idea if that’s correct. That’s how my endo’s nurse has explained it to me. Also the protein will cause a later rise. ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/24 "2018-01-23T23:54:29Z")
Our own formulas have changed over time, and they also depend upon the pizza. Thin crust is much easier, and deep dish Chicago-style harder. Right now, for 2 sliced of Costco pizza, we dose 100% bolus upfront, then another 50% bolus extended 1.5 hours starting an hour after we eat. Typically, but not always, this avoids a spike. ---
**Author:** ![ClaudnDaye](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/claudndaye/32/5_2.png) [@ClaudnDaye](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/ClaudnDaye)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 12:36am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/25 "2018-01-24T00:36:17Z")
Pizza if eaten too late cause all night highs for Liam. So we don’t let him eat pizza after 7PM ---
**Author:** ![bkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/da6949/32.png) [@bkh](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/bkh)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/26 "2018-01-24T03:28:18Z")
We like real pizza but we always bring it home. For a simpler pizza slice, I weigh it, call it 1/3 carb, and take a bolus with 50% up front and the rest over 2 hours. For a pizza with lots of veggies I’ll call it 1/4 carb rather than 1/3. The slices typically weigh 180 to 210 gram, so that’s 60 to 70 grams of carb per slice for the simpler pies. Daisymae’s estimate of 80 grams for 2 slices would not give me nearly enough insulin for the pizzas we have. But with a thinner crust or smaller pie maybe that could work. ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/27 "2018-01-25T20:59:59Z")
**SUCCESSFUL EXPERIMENT:** so i had 2 slices of pizza yesterday for lunch. i bolused for 90 gms of carbs with 35% up front and 65% extended over 2.5 hours. i started with a BG of 90, and maintained a flat line of 120/125 throughout the entire day. it was only at 10:15 pm that i spiked to 175; i took a correction and was ready for bed. i woke up during the night to test, and i was back in target range. so i think that this was a true success. although, next time i think i will bolus for 100gms. just a thought. but very happy with how it all worked out. **it was the best pizza ever, and i ate slowly so i could savor every bite. so worth it!!!** **DM** ---
**Author:** ![Katers87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a9adbd/32.png) [@Katers87](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Katers87)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/28 "2018-01-25T21:02:59Z")
Congrats! You’ll have to eat pizza more often now that you’ve got your strategy down 😉 nom nom 🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕 ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/29 "2018-01-25T21:04:03Z")
no kidding. i plan on eating it at least once a week. perhaps making it a regular “date” with my husband 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Pianoplayer7008](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/pianoplayer7008/32/1507_2.png) [@Pianoplayer7008](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Pianoplayer7008)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 9:58pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/30 "2018-01-25T21:58:18Z")
Awesome!! I’m planning to tackle pizza again soon, now that I can have dairy, have the Libre, and have a steady supply of Afrezza. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/31 "2018-01-25T22:02:13Z")
good luck. i found going in, that i was doing an experiment and i would not consider anything a failure. i would simply enjoy every bite, and just let go of whatever my BGs were doing. i took a wild guess and took the chance. i based a lot of it on my formula for a large grilled cheese sandwich. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Beacher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a6a055/32.png) [@Beacher](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Beacher)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/32 "2018-01-25T23:39:08Z")
> [@daisymae](#): > > i bolused for 90 gms of carbs Was that the actual carb count or @Eric’s double-the-carbs? I’ll have to try your 35/65/2.5 formula next time. (Why, you ask, when my formula is working for me? I dunno. Why not?) ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 2:23am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/33 "2018-01-26T02:23:29Z")
> [@Beacher](#): > > Was that the actual carb count i have no idea what the actual carb count was. i looked on the internet for “large slice of cheese pizza” and the counts were between 32 and 38gms a slice. so that would come to about 76gms of carbs on the high end. then i added some more to account for the cheese. and i decided to add a bit more on top of that, hoping i would over-shoot what i actually needed and then hoping that it would work out. whenever i have a grilled cheese sandwich, i count for 65gms with a 50/50% dual bolus over 2 hours. i figured i would be eating more cheese on the pizza, so i extended the length of the bolus for the pizza by 1/2 hour. it seemed to work well. ---
**Author:** ![Millz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/millz/32/12204_2.png) [@Millz](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Millz)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/34 "2018-01-28T16:59:11Z")
Great job!, I like this and will try something very similar next time we have pizza - and wam glad to have Afrezza for a correction later if needed. ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/35 "2018-02-06T21:56:12Z")
**pizza experiment # 2:** okay so i had 2.25 slices of pizza (i shared part of the last one with my hubby) this afternoon. i was really hungry. i decided to try tweaking a bit on my last experiement to see what would happen. i bolused for 95 gms of carbs, did a 35/65% dual bolus for 2.5 hours and pigged out. we walked for about 45 minutes after eating, so i think that ate up some of the carbs b/c i wasnt on any lowered temp basal rate. 2.5 hours after my initial bolus, my BG was 99. i still have 3 units OB for another 4 hours. i will be checking every hour. its experiments like this that make me feel it would be great to be using a Dexcom. but finger sticks work pretty well (if only i hadnt these terrible calluses on them, though 😉 ) i am eager to see how this plays out b/c with my last experiment i was stable for over 6 hours, and no higher than 134, but then at 10:15pm i shot up to 175 (just did an IM correction and came right back down). maybe today it will be different. i hope to stay stable. if i do shoot up again, then the next time i go for pizza, i will extend the bolus to cover 3 hours instead of just 2.5 hours. i might even raise the carb count, too. signing off, **DM** ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/36 "2018-02-06T22:38:08Z")
ooow. just tested at 5:30pm. this is almost 4 hours post bolus and my BG was 135. God, do i wish i had the DEXCOM. am i going to go up more, or will i stabalize? we shall see. i’ll test again in another hour. ---
**Author:** ![Katers87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a9adbd/32.png) [@Katers87](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Katers87)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/37 "2018-02-06T22:41:32Z")
That pizza sounds so good right now!!! Congrats on your success! ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/38 "2018-02-07T00:32:01Z")
its 7:30pm and i just did a finger stick; BG was 102. keeping my eyes on this; it would be really nice to have that dexcom cgm. also, hope i dont spike later this evening. pizza is such a tricky food to manage. but it tastes so good that its deff worth the effort. MmmGood. ☀ ---
**Author:** ![Pianoplayer7008](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/pianoplayer7008/32/1507_2.png) [@Pianoplayer7008](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Pianoplayer7008)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/39 "2018-02-07T00:50:00Z")
If the highest you end up going is 135, that’s AMAZING! 😲 ---
**Author:** ![cardamom](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/cardamom/32/2622_2.png) [@cardamom](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/cardamom)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314/40 "2018-02-07T00:51:16Z")
> [@Pianoplayer7008](#): > > If the highest you end up going is 135, that’s AMAZING! 😲 Agreed! [Previous page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/strictly-about-pizza/3314.md?page=3)