# Scattered and looking for something new.... Been Pumping for 12 Years and have Really known Nothing But **URL:** \ **Category:** Type 1 & LADA\ **Created:** [August 29, 2018, 11:50pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871 "2018-08-29T23:50:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/221 "2018-09-08T15:50:55Z")
So… frickin… weird. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Millz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/millz/32/12204_2.png) [@Millz](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Millz)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/222 "2018-09-08T17:33:32Z")
Ha! This will forever be my image of Eric 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Scotteric](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Scotteric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Scotteric)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/223 "2018-09-08T22:55:45Z")
I think 6:45pm is too early to take the night dose. It doesn’t last 12 hours overnight for me, at least in a way that is effective enough towards the end of its duration to tackle the dawn phenomenon. I try to take it at 9 or 10pm. If I wake up between about 6:30 and 8am I’m usually perfect. If I sleep later than this I will start to rise. I also like to time it so that the most effective hours will be around 3-4am when DP kicks in, so taking it at 9-10pm works well for this. If I took it earlier I’d likely go low around 1-2am and then high later. ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/224 "2018-09-08T23:07:26Z")
I was just coming around to show what happened this evening. I took 13 units this morning at 6:30. I was SUPPOSED to take my next 7 units at 5 (@Eric, I didn’t have it with me!). But I was already rising pretty quickly by 5. By 6, which is when I got to my Levemir, I was at 240. There really wouldn’t be a way to make it until 9 if doing my morning one at 6:30, and I was already rising by 4 am, so I can’t push that nighttime one back either. Eric has suggested a middle dose at 5pm. I got to it at 6 and will push back my next one to midnight. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fudiabetes/original/2X/4/4d4fa3849e3a3b4904159943af45763819996708.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/225 "2018-09-08T23:09:25Z")
And I said “weird”. Not weird. Not at all. But your _poor_ wife. 🤦‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![Scotteric](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Scotteric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Scotteric)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/226 "2018-09-08T23:12:51Z")
Hmmm, did you eat anything for lunch that would digest a few hours later? Either way if I took it at 6:30am it wouldn’t last for me either. I try to take the morning dose at 8 or 9am. That way my breakfast bolus covers the gap from waking up till I take the morning dose, and my dinner bolus covers night gaps. ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/227 "2018-09-09T02:13:38Z")
> [@Nickyghaleb](#): > > I took 13 units this morning at 6:30. I was SUPPOSED to take my next 7 units at 5 (@Eric, I didn’t have it with me!). But I was already rising pretty quickly by 5. By 6, which is when I got to my Levemir, I was at 240. Hey, trying to put this all together. Your shots today were 12 hours apart, and you were already spiking up by then, so that is kind of what we had already come up with - 12 hours is too much time. > [@Nickyghaleb](#): > > Eric has suggested a middle dose at 5pm. I got to it at 6 and will push back my next one to midnight. In the post above, I mentioned 7am, 5pm, and 11 pm. So that does not quite divide the day into 3 even parts. If you can go 7am, 3pm, and 11pm, that gives you 8 hours between shots. Is that doable? Or is 8am, 4pm, and midnight easier with your schedule? If you can get them at 8 hour intervals, that might be helpful. Otherwise the Tresiba/Levi combo might be the next step. ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 2:16am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/228 "2018-09-09T02:16:41Z")
> [@Nickyghaleb](#): > > But your _poor_ wife. 🤦‍♀️ She has stuck with me for 24 years. She knows what she is doing. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/229 "2018-09-09T02:31:18Z")
> [@Eric](#): > > If you can go 7am, 3pm, and 11pm, that gives you 8 hours between shots. Is that doable? Doable. Where does that put me tonight though? Had my last at 6 pm… ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/230 "2018-09-09T02:58:47Z")
> [@Eric](#): > > She has stuck with me for 24 years. She knows what she is doing. 💕 Then she must be quite a woman… 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/231 "2018-09-09T03:03:49Z")
> [@Scotteric](#): > > did you eat anything for lunch that would digest a few hours later? No. And this is consistent with what happens right around 10 1/2-11 hours in. Yesterday I did extra novolog to get through it, but I forgot today since I wasn’t eating anything. I ended up doing my Levemir, a 4 unit correction, and a 15 minute jump on the trampoline and have spent the rest of the evening hugging a 70. I’m rebounding now, but theees nothing to blame but welch’s Fruit snacks. 🙄. I’m trying another Levemir tonight at midnight and then will adjust it all tomorrow to be 8 hours apart. As recommended by 👆👆 (🧠) ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/232 "2018-09-09T03:23:54Z")
I would start over in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 4:01am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/233 "2018-09-09T04:01:55Z")
Thank you, sir. And good night! ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/234 "2018-09-09T04:07:09Z")
You will prolly have a spike in the morning since the Levi will be gone. ☹️ Can you get your hands on Lantus? That might be a good combo for you. ---
**Author:** ![jim26](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/jim26/32/9780_2.png) [@jim26](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/jim26)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 4:10am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/235 "2018-09-09T04:10:07Z")
🤐… ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 4:26am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/236 "2018-09-09T04:26:48Z")
You don’t have to do that… there’s something here you’d like to comment on?? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 4:27am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/237 "2018-09-09T04:27:58Z")
Don’t have lantus… can I do … Novolin?? 😬 ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 4:29am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/238 "2018-09-09T04:29:29Z")
BECAUSE I could also use a correction?? ---
**Author:** ![jim26](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/jim26/32/9780_2.png) [@jim26](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/jim26)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 4:50am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/239 "2018-09-09T04:50:13Z")
Sorry miss read the post. The suggestion was adding Lantus to the mix of insulins. I was actually thinking the suggestion was Novolog 70/30 which I had a very bad experience with once. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 5:22am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871/240 "2018-09-09T05:22:10Z")
I’ve decided to decline my own gut on this and go to bed 2 units short of the Levemir. The good news is I’m awake often enough to just give myself a 4 am bolus if it looks like I need it. 🤞 Good night. 🙂 [Previous page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/scattered-and-looking-for-something-new-been-pumping-for-12-years-and-have-really-known-nothing-but/4871.md?page=13)