# Pandamania 10k Training Log **URL:** \ **Category:** Sports & Exercise\ **Tags:** running\ **Created:** [March 3, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467 "2024-03-03T01:22:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![panda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/panda/32/11275_2.png) [@panda](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/panda)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:07pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/122 "2024-03-13T15:07:48Z")
yes the run sugars were between 8:45-9:45, sorry if that was confusing. now that i’m using the meter for precise 15min checks i tried to write the sequence throughout the run, in chronological order: it snaps into place between 8:45-9:45 in the main schedule. (if i somehow wrote it down wrong above, that’s what SHOULD be there) edit update: it said 9:30 on the main list when it should have been 10:30, i looked at the clock i forgot to switch when writing that down 😑 taking a lap around the house now to make sure everything sprang ahead… i forgot cause most clocks are automatic these days but i have one that isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/123 "2024-03-13T16:13:10Z")
Getting the time and BG numbers from the meter to a spreadsheet is maddening. I wish there was an automatic way to do that. There _might_ be, since there is a port on the meter which I am guessing you can plug into something. 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![panda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/panda/32/11275_2.png) [@panda](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/panda)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 11:41pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/124 "2024-03-13T23:41:50Z")
if it stinks it’s chemistry, if it’s green it’s biology, if i can’t ever get it to do what i want it’s definitely technology 🤷🏻‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![panda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/panda/32/11275_2.png) [@panda](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/panda)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/125 "2024-03-14T14:54:59Z")
03/12/2024: Twosies: 11 Days To Go Sleep Hours: 7.75 7:00: wake BG 81, Lantus 7u, NovoLog 1u, black coffee, fruit snacks (10g) and mini protein bar (9g) 8:30: BG 197, NovoLog 2u 8:35: BG 136, time for Twosies! to the treadmill! 9:00: BG 117, end run 10:45: BG 119 dropping, 2u NovoLog, dilute juice with tomato egg ham cheese and keto bagel thin sandwich (30g) 11:30: BG 92 and level 11:45: MaraMosey 12:00: low feeling, cgm 92 and drifting down, fruit snacks (10g) 12:30: end MaraMosey, BG 128 12:45 BG 142 rising, 2u NovoLog 1:20: BG 169, 1u NovoLog 2:30: BG 80 dropping, mini PB bar (9g) 3:00: BG 116 3:45: BG 107 dropping, 1u NovoLog, crackers and salami with apple (30g) 6:00: BG 68 dropping, juice box (15g), 2.5 (!!!) NovoLog 6:30: BG 96, brown rice with veggies and chicken (65g), mocktail (12g) 7:30: BG 82 9:00: BG 73 downward trend, 13u Lantus, 0.5u NovoLog, bedtime toast slice with PB and sugarfree jam (18g) 11:00: BG 99, dreamland here i come! TOTALS: 2.05mi run, 2.03mi walked, 219g carbs, 20u Lantus, 12u NovoLog Run #7: 03/13/2024 Distance: 2.05 Song of the Day: “Product of the 90s”, Phangs and Phoebe Ryan Run Time: 22:05 RPE: ~5/10 Location: Treadmill Surface: Treadmill Shoe: Hoka Bondi 8 Start Time: 8:35 PDT End Time: 8:59 PDT Start BG: 163 15min BG: 136 30min BG: 129 End BG: 132 Notes: knee felt ok but i could feel it when i tried to speed up. i may be hobbled by this for the near future, that was a pretty bad whoopsie the other day: i don’t normally pop it out of place midstride at speed 😬 ugh. watch me on timestamps in case i’m still hopping back to standard time… i am usually pretty organized but even i’m finding this sorta a lot to keep track of 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Trying](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/trying/32/4078_2.png) [@Trying](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Trying)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/126 "2024-03-14T15:13:17Z")
> [@panda](#): > > Notes: knee felt ok but i could feel it when i tried to speed up. i may be hobbled by this for the near future I had a torn meniscus a while ago, caused by my affies at the time, pulling me suddenly during a walk. It took many months to be able to run again but I’m still not able to run my normal stride. Anytime I take a normal (for me) stride, my knee begins to buckle. So now I make a concentrated effort to maintain short strides, a bit like marching! I’m thankful to just be able to run though! Good luck with your training! I’m amazed at how well you are doing considering your are so newly diagnosed. I love reading your training log!!! And love your photos, too!! ---
**Author:** ![panda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/panda/32/11275_2.png) [@panda](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/panda)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/127 "2024-03-14T15:18:41Z")
i had this knee redone in 2021: good guesser you! torn acl, trashed it in a minor climbing accident. the tear was missed on clinical exam and doc told me i could play through. so… i did. and that’s how my acl-free knee came to give out, _shredding my meniscus_ and cracking my femur, while i was forcing a door during my rookie season with the fire service. (since i was gimpy and good with computers and data, that’s how i ended up mobilized out to the regional covid crisis team: it still had hands on parts of the job, but the physical demands were a lot lower. “light duty”.) my guess is that the meniscus repair probably partly failed, or at least has some stray bit rambling about in there causing trouble. i’ll be living in a bigger city part time next year for law school, so hope to take that to an ortho if it’s still acting up. i have sent so many doctors’ kids to college… 🤣🤷🏻‍♀️ also doctors should never, ever tell me “use as tolerated”. so dangerous. ask me about the time they told me that about my right arm: it wasn’t fine, it was broken, and i climbed on it for a month (three summits over 8k and technical rock climbing) in a carpal tunnel brace from the drugstore. my radius was fully fractured and actually displaced due to that continued use. the exposed edge of bone sawed through my EPL tendon (the tendon that controls your thumb), requiring reconstructive surgery to regain function of my right hand. don’t EVER say “use as tolerated” to me 🤣😬🤷🏻‍♀️ and thanks 😅 like everyone here i’m always just chasing better management. my life strategy for things that get in my way is to basically to learn everything i can about the problem, grab every tool and weapon i can get my hands on to attack it with, and run full-tilt berserker screaming at the issue until it gets resolved 🤣🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Trying](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/trying/32/4078_2.png) [@Trying](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Trying)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/128 "2024-03-14T15:52:49Z")
> [@panda](#): > > good guesser you! torn acl, trashed it in a minor climbing accident. the tear was missed on clinical exam and doc told me i could play through. so > [@panda](#): > > don’t EVER say “use as tolerated” to me Wow, these were a some bad experiences! The doctor should have ordered x-rays and MRI to detect both of these! And I agree, never say “use as tolerated”! For someone who is used to a bit of pain (as I assume you are w/ your athleticism), that might mean something very different from another individual! I hope your knee continues to heal though, like mine seems to be doing. Fingers crossed for you, and your upcoming year at law school, too! ---
**Author:** ![panda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/panda/32/11275_2.png) [@panda](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/panda)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/129 "2024-03-14T15:57:59Z")
LOL well, if you count all the toes as one and all the fingers as one, i’m at 34 broken bones in my life so far. guess i’ve racked an average of about one a year since toddlerhood!! 😬 then we could talk sutures, staples, sepsis, tendons and ligaments, trauma-caused cataract… 🤣🤷🏻‍♀️ honestly doctors miss injuries in me all the time, i usually come back in a few months later when the thing fails dramatically. i’ve also literally come back from the dead, as in “20 minutes of cpr and two aed shocks” dead… “use as tolerated” is a bad plan. they did x-ray the arm (i saw something and asked, they dismissed, turns out i was right…) and they brushed off my knee based on pivot-shift test and my lack of pain or obvious instability (probably muscle stabilization since i had no acl…). i told y’all it was my knees, not me, you should be pitying 🤣 life is a full contact sport and i don’t like being on the bench! ---
**Author:** ![Trying](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/trying/32/4078_2.png) [@Trying](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Trying)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/130 "2024-03-14T16:15:13Z")
> [@panda](#): > > i’m at 34 broken bones > [@panda](#): > > literally come back from the dead Yikes, that’s a lot of injuries! Hopefully, they all healed well and I hope your knee does, too! You are certainly used to recovery! I think all of your sports and outdoor activities has strengthened you to the point that recovery is just something that your body naturally does!! Your healthy life style certainly helps, too!! ---
**Author:** ![panda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/panda/32/11275_2.png) [@panda](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/panda)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/131 "2024-03-14T17:26:57Z")
what can i say? DAMN THE TORPEDOES! 🤣🤷🏻‍♀️👍 life’s too short! ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/132 "2024-03-15T20:17:53Z")
Let’s take a little break from the 'betes and get back to the important stuff. I have toned this down for this coming week because the priority is for you to recover and get your knee to behave. Also, you **NEED** to work on breakfast before your run. 2 hours before, eat and take insulin and let’s get that dialed in **before** your race. Otherwise it will be very dicey. If you want to run without eating breakfast, you can do that. But your performance will take a hit. | Date: | Workout: | | --- | --- | | Mon, Mar 18 | 3 mile run, easy pace | | Tue, Mar 19 | 3 mile run, easy pace | | Wed, Mar 20 | Rest | | Thu, Mar 21 | 2 mile run, easy pace | | Fri, Mar 22 | Rest | | Sat, Mar 23 | Rest | | Sun, Mar 24 | Race Day!!! 10k | ---
**Author:** ![panda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/panda/32/11275_2.png) [@panda](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/panda)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/133 "2024-03-15T20:59:14Z")
copy that. i will demo race morning (5:30 alarm, 6:00 slow absorbing carb only breakfast, 8:00 start) every day this week. here we gooooo! ---
**Author:** ![Ladyinaskirt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Ladyinaskirt](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Ladyinaskirt)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/134 "2024-03-16T17:41:46Z")
I never bolus before my before dawn run, because my liver secretes a tremendous amount of glucose during my runs until about mile 5-6. And i wait for about 2 hours after runs for the rebound post-run drop. People chastise me for my habits—run on empty stomach, run long every day, rarely take break days, am vegan—but as a T1 with a 6.1 A1C, have been doing this for over 30 years. Of course, my marathon and ultra eating are different. 🏃‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![panda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/panda/32/11275_2.png) [@panda](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/panda)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/135 "2024-03-16T17:54:39Z")
i have become a bit delinquent with the detailed logs but can post retroactively if folks still want to see. i have the records but haven’t formatted all of them to share, life has gotten away from me a bit the last few 😅 otherwise, today i spun up 6 miles (pace hobbled by knee, although i have not popped it again and it’s recovering, my mechanics at faster speeds seem to cause trouble). i ran it more as a steady state than the last two fast: tried to bring the pace up but backed off when the knee yelped. gear-wise here’s an update: single use lancets are a failed experiment. i have instead opted to go with a pre-loaded accuchek softclix lancing device. there were numerous failure modes for single use lancets: 1. bulky. i have plenty of cargo space in my setup and to spare, but they’re nonetheless awkward and clunky. 2. dropping them: i fumbled and dropped several unopened. they are small and do not have any grippy surfaces so they’re not that easy to manipulate in motion. there is no way to tether them to prevent this. 3. inconsistent puncture: i don’t consistently get a good sample on the fly. it is annoying when one doesn’t hit paydirt and i have to fish out and open a new one. 4. discard: again i have the cargo space, but it’s an extra step, it’s extra space, and the softclix doesn’t require it. the softclix lancing device arms by pushing the end, like a ballpoint pen, and releases by pressing a button on the side. it is relatively short for good grip control and aim on the go, and can be operated one handed. it can be clipped to things just like a pen, using its built in clip, or lashed with a badge holder type lanyard to prevent droppage. the pen slips nicely into a nathan pack front shoulder strap pocket. this will be my lancing system. i intend to share a demo video of how it all works together soon! my race day system has to cover my needs as well as mara’s (dogs come with race day overhead like poopy pickups!), so i carry a lot of junk and it might get confusing to read without the visual. stay tuned! ---
**Author:** ![panda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/panda/32/11275_2.png) [@panda](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/panda)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/136 "2024-03-16T20:00:31Z")
Demo Days: 03/16/2024: 8 Days to Go 5:30: beep beep, go time! BG 153, NO morning Lantus, NovoLog 2u, get water boiling 6:15: BG 131, NovoLog 1u, oatmeal with sugar free vanilla syrup and penzeys pie spice (30g), coffee 7:30: BG 145 8:00: BG 128 8:15: BG 80, run start 8:30: BG 69, 15g juice 8:45: BG 69, 15g juice 9:05: BG 72 9:30: BG 92 9:35: run end 9:45: BG 103 DEMO: 03/16/3024 Distance: 6.05 Song of the Day: “The Confession”, Sam Feldt Run Time: 1:05:40. my 10k goal race time (someday) is 0:59:59 RPE: ~5/10 Location: Treadmill Surface: Treadmill Shoe: On Cloudflyer 4 Start Time: 8:15 PDT End Time: 9:10 PDT Notes: still mad about the knee but i have ironed out some gear questions, and my “easy pace” has markedly gotten faster over the last couple weeks. new knee brace just arrived so will run with that monday. i was surprised my sugars ran lower after eating than on days i run empty. ---
**Author:** ![panda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/panda/32/11275_2.png) [@panda](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/panda)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/137 "2024-03-16T20:36:26Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/j_yAA0NX2_Q/maxresdefault.jpg "testing and emergency sugar setup for next week: another clip will detail the rest of the rig.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_yAA0NX2_Q) 1:00 video clip of my lancing setup: emergency sugar rides along in the front. the rest of the rig (layers, dog gear, all the etc) to come. for such a short event, this is most of the diabetes stuff right here. ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/138 "2024-03-16T20:49:55Z")
> [@panda](#): > > 8:15: BG 80, run start > > 8:30: BG 69, 15g juice > > 8:45: BG 69, 15g juice > > 9:05: BG 72 > > 9:30: BG 92 > > 9:35: run end > > 9:45: BG 103 Do you know the word for this? I’ll give you a hint. It starts with the letters P-E-R-F-E-C-T. The 69 BG’s were not too low. They allowed you to take 30g during the run. * * * * * * Don’t lose sight of this. The insulin you took for the oatmeal was not **just** 1 unit. It was also some of the 2 units you took when you woke up. > [@panda](#): > > 5:30: beep beep, go time! BG 153, NO morning Lantus, NovoLog 2u, get water boiling > > 6:15: BG 131, NovoLog 1u, oatmeal with sugar free vanilla syrup and penzeys pie spice (30g), coffee ---
**Author:** ![panda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/panda/32/11275_2.png) [@panda](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/panda)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/139 "2024-03-16T20:53:02Z")
guess it’s oatmeal next week then! 👍 ain’t broke don’t fix it! i was worried 69 was a hair too low for go time, but decided to try it because i usually spike when i start moving. my hope was the spike and insulin and activity would all coincide for “deconstructive interference” (like waves in physics) to average out in zone. seems like it worked! ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/140 "2024-03-16T20:55:54Z")
> [@panda](#): > > 1:00 video clip of my lancing setup: Looks like you have the testing routine figured out! Very good stuff there! At least try the meter on the back of your arm too. See if it’s easier that way. Try it both ways and decide. For me, the back of my wrist is easier. But whatever is most comfortable for you. ---
**Author:** ![panda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/panda/32/11275_2.png) [@panda](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/panda)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:49pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467/141 "2024-03-19T15:49:35Z")
i have fallen off with the detailed updates but! we are less than a week from race day. because i have a bum knee as well as a bum pancreas, my pre race week schedule is fairly light. i am running braced which is helping a ton. the last two days have been outside. yesterday i did a demo of my race day plan (timing breakfast etc). unfortunately my contour one got too cold on the run, so next time i will tuck that in a pocket for cold mornings. my cgm had of course also thrown in the towel by the time i realized my contour was too cold, so mara took her first crack at her job with no training wheels. there is little data from this beyond my time and my observations; the contour gave one reading of 82, and i took 15g glucose tabs, but when i tried to check again in 10min it errored out. my sugar was ok at first getting home but then shot sky high (over 250) so i think that 84 may have been an error…? i didn’t realize the cold would bother the meter so much, so that’s great learning…. …which got applied today, on the same route! i decided to see if i could vary the morning routine successfully by monitoring myself and making educated guesses (look at current sugar from wakeup to start and consider trend, consider food or lack of, consider upcoming demands, my normal morning trend up), and took a (ha!) stab at guessing my insulin. i was hoping to be able to adapt even if the routine has changed. therefore, i ran 3 miles yesterday with fuel on board and 3 miles today without, on the same route at the same time of day. i knew i could do an empty run on the treadmill and wanted to replicate outside: i had success! i kept the meter warm this time and here are today’s results: today’s specifics: 3.12 miles, 300’ rolling elevation, mixed dirt and pavement; time 32:48, RPE ~5/10 ![IMG_6134](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fudiabetes/original/2X/5/5660ad5ac0b0f7db06fcd29b6fff210fb787872a.jpeg) [Previous page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pandamania-10k-training-log/14467.md?page=8)