# No-spike rice **URL:** \ **Category:** Food\ **Created:** [September 30, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217 "2017-09-30T14:13:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/21 "2017-10-02T03:10:22Z")
Well it tastes good, we shall see how the bg spike fairs. Thanks Michel for the pointer. ---
**Author:** ![Kaelan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/kaelan/32/989_2.png) [@Kaelan](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Kaelan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/22 "2017-10-02T04:02:48Z")
> [@Chris](#): > > we shall see how the bg spike fairs. I hope he does not spike. ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 4:19am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/23 "2017-10-02T04:19:29Z")
> [@Thomas](#): > > So with the Basmati, how much do the cooking directions come into play? My second answer on that 🙂 I forgot to mention that it is possible that the olive oil may also play a role in dampening the spike. We have not tried without it. I may just have to test that. [EDIT] I just re-read @Pianoplayer7008 's feedback - she has a good point, washing could well reduce the amount of starch/ carb. So possibly all the instructions make a difference. ---
**Author:** ![kenrick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/kenrick/32/113_2.png) [@kenrick](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/kenrick)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 7:56am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/24 "2017-10-02T07:56:02Z")
Great tip on the brown rice! I’ll have to try it out. I’ve mostly been eating quinoa instead of rice. The carb count is only a little lower than rice, but the glycemic index is a lot smaller so it is easier to bolus for it without a big spike. ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/25 "2017-10-02T14:47:08Z")
> [@kenrick](#): > > the glycemic index is a lot smaller so it is easier to bolus for it without a big spike. We have also found that quinoa is very easy to dose for, for us. ---
**Author:** ![CatLady](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/catlady/32/36_2.png) [@CatLady](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/CatLady)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/26 "2017-10-02T14:49:15Z")
@Michel, Think this’ll work in a standard pot stovetop with that amount of water? ---
**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/27 "2017-10-02T15:39:54Z")
It does work in a standard pot stovetop, we cooked it last night. Used 3x water (instead of 2x called for in the directions) and it cooked in 40 minutes just like any other brown rice. I will say that it did seem to be easier to control than regular rice, but it wasn’t magic or anything. It was tasty though, we used a bit of butter and olive oil as well as salt. ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/28 "2017-10-02T15:41:31Z")
> [@CatLady](#): > > Think this’ll work in a standard pot stovetop with that amount of water? I used a regular pot for rice for many years, and still occasionally use one – I mostly switched to the rice cooker because I don’t need to look over it: I have burned rice in a pot countless times 🙂 In the process, I have tried to compare the two often. I have never been able to get a reliable equivalence, I think because conditions in a pot are a lot less replicable than in a rice cooker. Nonetheless, the rice I find easiest to do in a pot is brown basmati. It takes a lot longer to cook than most other varieties. In fact, some people say that you can’t cook basmati in a cooker, but I think it is because they don’t use enough water (it is AWFUL in a cooker with 2x water). I would expect you to need a little more water in a pot than in a cooker. ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/29 "2017-10-02T15:44:30Z")
> [@Chris](#): > > Used 3x water (instead of 2x called for in the directions) and it cooked in 40 minutes just like any other brown rice. I use 3x water with brown basmati too (it’s jasmine I use 2x for). You might even try a bit more on a pot. > [@Chris](#): > > it did seem to be easier to control than regular rice, but it wasn’t magic I am sorry ☹ I wish it worked better for you! I am curious – when you pre-bolus, do you eat on a timer or do you wait until you turn the corner? ---
**Author:** ![Thomas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/thomas/32/1719_2.png) [@Thomas](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Thomas)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/30 "2017-10-02T15:46:48Z")
> [@Michel](#): > > I have burned rice in a pot countless times Before I had the rice cooker, I would often cook rice in the oven. Due to burning it on the stove. lol The oven seemed to make it much easier and I never had a problem with it burning. With the rice cooker, whether it is white rice, jasmine, basmati, brown - I just put the rice in with the measuring scoop and add the water to the indicated line and push the button (although brown rice has a different button to press) and let the cooker do whatever it is that it does. I assume miniature elves inside that handle any complexities 'cause it seems to turn out perfect every time. ---
**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/31 "2017-10-02T15:50:23Z")
We wait for it to turn the corner when we have time. Last night we had time, so he rode his insulin down to 80, then we ate dinner. He had 3 oz of rice, some steak and salad. So in total his meal carbs were 35g. True to form he bounced up to about 200 before he turned the corner. Like I said, it was tasty, but Cody is very carb sensitive, so this was a much better response than he would have with regular rice. ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/32 "2017-10-02T15:50:51Z")
> [@Thomas](#): > > Before I had the rice cooker, I would often cook rice in the oven. Due to burning it on the stove. lol > > The oven seemed to make it much easier and I never had a problem with it burning. That is a great trick, I should have thought of it, since I often use the oven on other dishes for the same purpose. > [@Thomas](#): > > I just put the rice in with the measuring scoop and add the water to the indicated line I find that, for us, different varieties of rice behave differently in terms of proportions to water. But that’s us 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/33 "2017-10-02T16:01:33Z")
> [@Chris](#): > > True to form he bounced up to about 200 before he turned the corner. @Chris, I wonder if Cody may benefit from this technique that @lh378 just mentioned: > [@Study: eating carbs last reduces spike](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/study-eating-carbs-last-reduces-spike/2236): > > I came across this article and wanted to share with the group (is this thread the most appropriate one to post the article below?): [http://drc.bmj.com/content/5/1/e000440](http://drc.bmj.com/content/5/1/e000440) My take away is the following from the article: “Modifying the rate of nutrient absorption is a therapeutic principle of particular relevance to diabetes. A plausible explanation for the attenuated glycemic response observed with the CL meal pattern is delayed gastric emptying and consequently slower rates of carbohydrate a… We are very excited about it, because we have never tried, and, in fact, do the exact opposite today. ---
**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/34 "2017-10-02T16:02:52Z")
Yeah, he might, we will definitely be giving that a try. ---
**Author:** ![CatLady](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/catlady/32/36_2.png) [@CatLady](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/CatLady)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/35 "2017-10-02T16:21:40Z")
Oven, d’oh! 🙀 What temperature do you recommend? ---
**Author:** ![Thomas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/thomas/32/1719_2.png) [@Thomas](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Thomas)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/36 "2017-10-02T16:24:11Z")
Are there multiple temperatures on the oven? 😈 lol - I usually cook everything at 350 unless something really jumps out at me. It is possible my sense of taste is not highly developed. Stunted one might even say. ---
**Author:** ![Pianoplayer7008](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/pianoplayer7008/32/1507_2.png) [@Pianoplayer7008](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Pianoplayer7008)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/37 "2017-10-02T16:24:53Z")
Pre-Instant Pot, I would make our family’s comfort meal (chicken and rice) in the oven. By far the best tasting of all of the cooking methods I’ve tried (rice is cooked in seasoned chicken broth). ETA: we cook on 350, too. ---
**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/38 "2017-10-02T16:44:23Z")
> [@Thomas](#): > > It is possible my sense of taste is not highly developed. Might even be probable. FYI - I hardly ever use 350, usually I am lower for the meats sake, or higher to develop flavor. Probably the one exception is cookies, where 350 works well. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CatLady](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/catlady/32/36_2.png) [@CatLady](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/CatLady)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/39 "2017-10-04T21:00:39Z")
I prepared @Michel’s recipe last night and did NOT spike!!! 😸 I used home-made chicken broth (with a good tablespoon of chicken fat in it) and baked the rice at 325 degrees for about 55 minutes. I ate a 150 gram portion (!!!) covered by a 1-hour prebolus of 5.45 units of insulin. So totally kick-ass to eat some rice for a change!! ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217/40 "2017-10-04T22:12:46Z")
> [@CatLady](#): > > I used home-made chicken broth (with a good tablespoon of chicken fat in it) and baked the rice at 325 degrees for about 55 minutes What a terrific recipe this looks like! > [@CatLady](#): > > I ate a 150 gram portion (!!!) covered by a 1-hour prebolus of 5.45 units of insulin. Really awesome! I am so pleased it worked for you! [Previous page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/no-spike-rice/2217.md?page=3)