# Mini-dose glucagon study

**URL:** <https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/mini-dose-glucagon-study/13655>\
**Category:** T1 Research\
**Created:** [March 9, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/mini-dose-glucagon-study/13655 "2023-03-09T22:19:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![TomH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/tomh/32/9063_2.png) [@TomH](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TomH)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/mini-dose-glucagon-study/13655/21 "2023-03-15T15:01:26Z")

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@Boerenkool Hadn’t heard of the Inreda system. Don’t understand the second sensor use if everything is based on glucose level, but I don’t speak Dutch either.

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**Author:** ![bkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/da6949/32.png) [@bkh](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/bkh)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/mini-dose-glucagon-study/13655/22 "2023-03-15T15:59:59Z")

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> [@TomH](#):
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> Don’t understand the second sensor use

?? I thought it uses 1 sensor but 2 infusion sets. One set for insulin, the other for glucagon.

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**Author:** ![Boerenkool](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/boerenkool/32/6307_2.png) [@Boerenkool](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Boerenkool)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/mini-dose-glucagon-study/13655/23 "2023-03-15T16:13:04Z")

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They think using one sensor for making automated dosing decisions is unsafe, because sensors can be faulty. Therefore they use a second sensor to compare the readings and probably alert the user when the readings differ too much.

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**Author:** ![TomH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/tomh/32/9063_2.png) [@TomH](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TomH)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/mini-dose-glucagon-study/13655/24 "2023-03-15T16:13:14Z")

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@bkh The video shows two infusion sets and two sensors, seemed odd, but that’s what is shown. Only thing I can think of is one as a back up or the two report and an average is taken for better accuracy?

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**Author:** ![bkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/da6949/32.png) [@bkh](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/bkh)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/mini-dose-glucagon-study/13655/25 "2023-03-15T17:25:27Z")

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> [@Boerenkool](#):
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> They think using one sensor for making automated dosing decisions is unsafe, because sensors can be faulty. Therefore they use a second sensor to compare the readings and probably alert the user when the readings differ too much.

I could see the sense of this if the two sensors are not started at the same time, like 5 days apart if the sensors have a 10-day lifespan, and the recently-started sensor was underweighted in the average.

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**Author:** ![shott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@shott](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/shott)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 3:27am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/mini-dose-glucagon-study/13655/26 "2023-03-19T03:27:59Z")

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> [@Boerenkool](#):
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> They think using one sensor for making automated dosing decisions is unsafe, because sensors can be faulty. Therefore they use a second sensor to compare the readings and probably alert the user when the readings differ too much.

Boeing learned the problem of relying on a single angle-of-attack sensor to fly their 737MAX. Redundancy is always a good thing when making important decisions. The challenge, of course, is making a reliable two component pump that doesn’t cost as much as a Boeing jet. The insulin/glucagon pump already needs two reservoirs and two pump channels … so maybe adding a second sensor isn’t that unreasonable

I still predict that many of us will have access to insulin/glucagon pumps within the next 5-10 years. I can’t wait …

John.

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**Author:** ![bostrav59](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/bostrav59/32/7281_2.png) [@bostrav59](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/bostrav59)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/mini-dose-glucagon-study/13655/27 "2023-03-19T17:28:41Z")

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> [@shott](#):
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> I still predict that many of us will have access to insulin/glucagon pumps within the next 5-10 years. I can’t wait …

I agree.

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