# Low-carb diet study

**URL:** <https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/low-carb-diet-study/4768>\
**Category:** Food & Diet\
**Created:** [August 17, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/low-carb-diet-study/4768 "2018-08-17T19:06:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/low-carb-diet-study/4768/1 "2018-08-17T19:06:44Z")

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I always take these studies with a grain full shaker of salt. So I am not posting this because I believe it. There are probably many factors that were not properly considered.

But I thought people might find it interesting. Especially since they have apparently invented a time-machine, which seems like it would be the bigger story.  
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[https://www.yahoo.com/news/low-carb-diet-linked-elevated-mortality-risk-study-233354036.html](https://www.yahoo.com/news/low-carb-diet-linked-elevated-mortality-risk-study-233354036.html)

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**Author:** ![Jen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/jen/32/4777_2.png) [@Jen](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Jen)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/low-carb-diet-study/4768/2 "2018-08-17T19:32:52Z")

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Well, I can’t use that site due to the stupid video at the top being obnoxious and either locking the page up or interfering with my screen reader…but I did get as far as this part:

“For the study, under 40 percent of energy intake from carbohydrates qualifies as a low-carb regimen, though many such diets reduce the share to 20 percent or less.”

So in other words, they weren’t studying a low-carb diet. If someone eats 2,000 calories a day, then 40% is 200 grams of carbohydrates a day. That is not a low-carb diet by any stretch…

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**Author:** ![TiaG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/tiag/32/594_2.png) [@TiaG](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TiaG)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/low-carb-diet-study/4768/3 "2018-08-17T19:36:56Z")

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I think the interesting finding was that people who follow low-carb and elevate their animal-protein-based intake have higher risk of death, but that the risk goes down if people are getting the higher levels of protein from plant-based sources.

I think there were a few studies tying some particular protein in animal meat to an inflammatory process that messes up blood vessels. Taken with all the grains of salt of course, but I think that’s a plausible explanation. Who knows of course if these results even make sense. But if they did and could be confirmed, that would be a logical explanation for why.

As for @Jen’s critique – well, that’s definitely true. Most people on here eat way fewer carbs than is considered “low carb” – although obviously on a population cohort level these bins make sense because _so few people are eating less than that_. Also, on 2,000 calories a day, women typically eat around 1,500 calories a day – so that would be less than 150 g.

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**Author:** ![T1Allison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c77e96/32.png) [@T1Allison](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/T1Allison)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/low-carb-diet-study/4768/4 "2018-08-17T20:26:12Z")

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> [@TiaG](#):
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> Also, on 2,000 calories a day, women typically eat around 1,500 calories a day – so that would be less than 150 g.

Women who are trying to lose weight? or maintain? I’m curious about the 1500 calories since I’m thinner than I’d like and I need at least 2000 calories per day to maintain my weight, let alone gain.

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**Author:** ![TiaG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/tiag/32/594_2.png) [@TiaG](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TiaG)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/low-carb-diet-study/4768/5 "2018-08-17T20:27:37Z")

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I think it varies by height but I eat about 1,400 calories a day and do not gain weight or lose it. If I want to lose weight I need to eat about 1,000 calories a day. I am short though – 5’4" – and on the slender side. And I’m not doing a ton of vigorous exercise.

But I would imagine that my activity levels are at least as much as the average American.

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**Author:** ![T1Allison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c77e96/32.png) [@T1Allison](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/T1Allison)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/low-carb-diet-study/4768/6 "2018-08-17T20:29:34Z")

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I’m 5’8" and 139 pounds. I’m hoping to get back up to 145 pounds, though. It’s been a slow process.

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**Author:** ![TiaG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/tiag/32/594_2.png) [@TiaG](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TiaG)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/low-carb-diet-study/4768/7 "2018-08-17T20:31:37Z")

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yeah so you are approximately close to the “average 150-lb male” that’s used as a reference point for the 2,000-calorie diet in terms of height/weight. (Not to say you are manly or anything…just that from a height/weight perspective, you’re not far off from the person they’re using as the benchmark for the 2,000-calorie diet).

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**Author:** ![kenrick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/kenrick/32/113_2.png) [@kenrick](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/kenrick)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 4:06am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/low-carb-diet-study/4768/8 "2018-08-18T04:06:36Z")

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The Lancet article is here: [https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30135-X/fulltext](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30135-X/fulltext)

I noticed the definition of low-carb too. They do have a figure that goes down to 20% and the curve indicates the risk is higher the lower the carb percentage. There could be a lot of other confounding factors, of course. I haven’t dug into it enough yet…but it does seem like they tried to remove the impact of diabetes from the study, so not sure how applicable the results are to us.

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**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/low-carb-diet-study/4768/9 "2018-08-18T19:14:47Z")

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> [@T1Allison](#):
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> I’m thinner than I’d like and I need at least 2000 calories per day to maintain my weight, let alone gain.

hey T1Allison, i experience the exact same problem. i weighed myself this morning and came in at a whopping 100 lbs. my clothing is loose on me as well. i believe it is from all the swimming i do, but since i have been swimming, i have increased my carbs and my fat and my protein and my calories. still i cannot put on a pound. i raised my calorie intake from 1,500 to about 2,000, but apparently i need to try and get up to 2,500. what a bummer, huh? 😉

btw, i am 5’4" and medium boned.
