# Looping: a possible strategy for sleep deprivation

**URL:** https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/looping-a-possible-strategy-for-sleep-deprivation/3383
**Category:** DIY
**Tags:** sleep
**Created:** [January 29, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/looping-a-possible-strategy-for-sleep-deprivation/3383 "2018-01-29T22:29:07Z")
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### Author: ![bkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/da6949/32.png) [@bkh](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/bkh)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/looping-a-possible-strategy-for-sleep-deprivation/3383/1 "2018-01-29T22:29:07Z")

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Not a tip, just a plan: I intend to start looping within a month. I’m particularly inspired by Renza Scibilia’s experience as reported on her blog [https://diabetogenic.wordpress.com/2018/01/16/my-new-diabetes/](https://diabetogenic.wordpress.com/2018/01/16/my-new-diabetes/)

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### Author: ![dm61](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/dm61/32/1602_2.png) [@dm61](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/dm61)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/looping-a-possible-strategy-for-sleep-deprivation/3383/2 "2018-01-29T23:36:42Z")

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> [@Being Unlimited while sleep deprived](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/being-unlimited-while-sleep-deprived/3374/2):
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> inspired by Renza Scibilia’s experience

Great, I’ve added that blog post to the [Loop wiki page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/loop-getting-started/2216). Happy to hear you’ll start Loop (or OpenAPS, or AndriodAPS?) - will welcome you to the future soon 😉

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### Author: ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2018, 12:08am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/looping-a-possible-strategy-for-sleep-deprivation/3383/3 "2018-01-30T00:08:14Z")

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> [@Being Unlimited while sleep deprived](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/being-unlimited-while-sleep-deprived/3374/2):
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> Not a tip, just a plan: I intend to start looping within a month

I am with @bkh in terms of plans: we intend to start Loop as well. I see it as the best way to control nights in the future when my son is on his own.

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### Author: ![bkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/da6949/32.png) [@bkh](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/bkh)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/looping-a-possible-strategy-for-sleep-deprivation/3383/4 "2018-01-30T15:56:19Z")

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> [@Being Unlimited while sleep deprived](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/being-unlimited-while-sleep-deprived/3374/3):
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> Happy to hear you’ll start Loop (or OpenAPS, or AndriodAPS?) - will welcome you to the future soon

It will be Loop. I already had an old MM723 with suitable firmware, and got an iPhone, a mac, and a Reillylink. But I made a blunder in ordering pump supplies, so I’m waiting until I get a little closer to my pump supply reorder date. I wanted luer-lock reservoirs for the 723 so that I could use the same infusion sets if I had to switch back to the t:slim. But it turns out that the MM luer-lock reservoirs don’t work in the paradigm pumps, only in the real old pumps.

In deciding which way to go, I was helped by several articles. It seemed that Loop might be a bit simpler and also more convenient when not connected to the internet. But OpenAPS looks delightfully advanced, so it was also an attractive choice.

> **[Loop vs OpenAPS update](http://seemycgm.com/2017/09/02/loop-vs-openaps-update/)**
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> Jumping into the DIY closed loop arena can be tough.  Feels like a big commitment and huge change (and it is).  Choosing which system you want to use can be overwhelming.  Worrying about whether yo…

> **[Which Hybrid Closed Loop should I choose? | Diabettech - Diabetes and Technology](https://www.diabettech.com/artificial-pancreas/looping-do-i-choose-openaps-or-loop-either-way-wearenotwaiting/)**
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> A comparison of the features of open source hybrid closed loops.

> **[Choices for DIY Loops | Diabettech - Diabetes and Technology](https://www.diabettech.com/looping-a-guide/)**
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> A guide to the open and closed loop systems available via open source projects. OpenAPS, Loop, AndroidAPS, HAPP

> **[What you should know about closed looping (DIY like #OpenAPS or otherwise)](https://diyps.org/2017/08/09/what-you-should-know-about-closed-looping-diy-like-openaps-or-otherwise/)**
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> I've been wearing a DIY closed loop for something like 979 days..which means something like ~20,000 hours with this technology. Additionally, I'm not the only one. At the time of writing this post (see the latest count here), there are (n=1)\*369+...

> **[The next big OpenAPS release | Diabettech - Diabetes and Technology](https://www.diabettech.com/artificial-pancreas/the-latest-updates-to-openaps-try-to-make-life-easier-once-again-available-in-the-dev-branch/)**
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> Delving into the latest features that have been added to the release candidate for the 0.6.0 release of OpenAPS.

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### Author: ![dm61](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/dm61/32/1602_2.png) [@dm61](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/dm61)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/looping-a-possible-strategy-for-sleep-deprivation/3383/5 "2018-01-30T17:26:48Z")

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> [@Being Unlimited while sleep deprived](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/being-unlimited-while-sleep-deprived/3374/6):
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> In deciding which way to go, I was helped by several articles. It seemed that Loop might be a bit simpler and also more convenient when not connected to the internet. But OpenAPS looks delightfully advanced, so it was also an attractive choice.

Some of these articles are a bit dated - DIY systems have advanced pretty quickly over the last year. As is the case with almost anything D-related, these reports may also be a bit biased by personal experiences. The truth is, all DIY systems are really good at this point, and there are many people doing well or extremely well on either one of them. A biased statement: I’ve used OpenAPS first and then Loop for more than 2 years now. Personally, I find Loop very powerful and convenient - works really well for me.

A side note: apologies to @Jen for hijacking the thread in a very different direction. @Michel, maybe time to split this?
