# Is the Medtronic 670G a more/less forgiving pump (discussion fork)? **URL:** https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/is-the-medtronic-670g-a-more-less-forgiving-pump-discussion-fork/5661 **Category:** Type 1 & LADA **Created:** [November 29, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/is-the-medtronic-670g-a-more-less-forgiving-pump-discussion-fork/5661 "2018-11-29T15:01:45Z") **Posts on this page:** 1 **Showing post:** 2
### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb) #### Post date: [November 29, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/is-the-medtronic-670g-a-more-less-forgiving-pump-discussion-fork/5661/2 "2018-11-29T15:12:36Z")
> [@Medtronic certified pump trainer killed by own malfunctioning pump](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/medtronic-certified-pump-trainer-killed-by-own-malfunctioning-pump/5640/21): > > When DN posted her experience with a 670 here, it was notable that it turned off all insulin for a few hours overnight while she was asleep after a dinner over-bolus and then turned it back on when her BG rose back to normal. I think that prevented a significant low and think it is a very useful safety feature, though she had other issues with it (mostly while awake). It was _rarely_ more beneficial than it was a nuisance. It’s known that the 670G can give you a nice flat line over night, but it is achieved by suspending and reducing insulin for significant periods of time. You pay for it in the morning when you get up and bolus for a breakfast— and then hit 300. So people’s solution is to trick their pumps into giving them extra insulin, but I’m not sure how _trickery_ is safer when it comes to insulin delivering devices. Personally, I don’t think these “smart” pumps are safer. Not yet. Hopefully making use of a better performing CGM will have a big impact on these pumps’ capabilities, but the 670G isn’t using a strong CGM, so we don’t know yet where the problem lies. --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/is-the-medtronic-670g-a-more-less-forgiving-pump-discussion-fork/5661)._