# Interesting Study About T1D Honeymoon and LDL

**URL:** <https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/interesting-study-about-t1d-honeymoon-and-ldl/4044>\
**Category:** Type 1 & LADA\
**Created:** [May 17, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/interesting-study-about-t1d-honeymoon-and-ldl/4044 "2018-05-17T16:10:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/interesting-study-about-t1d-honeymoon-and-ldl/4044/1 "2018-05-17T16:10:43Z")

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> **[A predictive model for lack of partial clinical remission in new-onset pediatric...](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0176860)**
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> Importance \>50% of patients with new-onset type 1 diabetes (T1D) do not enter partial clinical remission (PCR); early identification of these patients may improve initial glycemic control and reduce long-term complications. Aim To determine whether...

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**Author:** ![TiaG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/tiag/32/594_2.png) [@TiaG](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TiaG)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/interesting-study-about-t1d-honeymoon-and-ldl/4044/2 "2018-05-17T16:25:26Z")

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I find this study depressing because as far as I can tell Samson had almost no honeymoon. He had one perfect day a few months after diagnosis that I still remember, where he needed almost no insulin. But that was it. 😢

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**Author:** ![Katers87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a9adbd/32.png) [@Katers87](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Katers87)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/interesting-study-about-t1d-honeymoon-and-ldl/4044/3 "2018-05-17T16:32:54Z")

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"More than 50% of children and adolescents with new-onset T1D do not undergo partial clinical remission and are thus at an increased risk for long-term complications of diabetes mellitus…

…PCR was defined as insulin-dose adjusted hemoglobin A1c of ≤9."

I think Samson might fit the definition of PCR. I’m a little confused by this study. Are they saying that they adjusted the A1c depending on how much insulin a child was using? Seems rather subjective.

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**Author:** ![TiaG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/tiag/32/594_2.png) [@TiaG](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TiaG)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:33pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/interesting-study-about-t1d-honeymoon-and-ldl/4044/4 "2018-05-17T16:33:52Z")

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oh! I mean his A1C at diagnosis was 7.2 and it was never higher than 7.5. So I feel like maybe that’s reassuring. I would like him to get his LDL tested though earlier rather than later.

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**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/interesting-study-about-t1d-honeymoon-and-ldl/4044/5 "2018-05-17T18:49:40Z")

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I think that is the point of the study, that perhaps we need to re-evaluate when they do LDL testing