# Insulin on needle after injection... No need to worry?

**URL:** <https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/insulin-on-needle-after-injection-no-need-to-worry/4899>\
**Category:** Type 1 & LADA\
**Created:** [September 5, 2018, 3:51am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/insulin-on-needle-after-injection-no-need-to-worry/4899 "2018-09-05T03:51:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 3:51am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/insulin-on-needle-after-injection-no-need-to-worry/4899/1 "2018-09-05T03:51:10Z")

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I know I just read this somewhere around here, but I can’t find it now. Every time I do an injection, one of two things happen: I either find a small bubble of insulin atop my skin or one on the end of the needle. I think I just read something here about why this is not a concern, but could someone explain why not? If I’m only bolusing a unit or two, how would that not affect the amount I’ve actually received?

Back to bed…

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**Author:** ![Beacher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a6a055/32.png) [@Beacher](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Beacher)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/insulin-on-needle-after-injection-no-need-to-worry/4899/2 "2018-09-05T12:21:46Z")

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I’m assuming you keep pressure on the plunger and keep the needle inside you for a good 10 seconds after injecting, and release the skin if you’ve pinched up?

Or may this is what you were reading. It applies to both pens and syringes.

> [@Proper Priming Technique for Pens](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/proper-priming-technique-for-pens/4880):
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> I’m doing a Levemir pen injection at 8:00 tomorrow morning and have been given strict instructions to “prime carefully” but don’t even know how to prime “poorly”. If anyone out there is able to give a quick answer before 8 tomorrow morning, it would be appreciated. I’m sure I can find something online if not…

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**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/insulin-on-needle-after-injection-no-need-to-worry/4899/3 "2018-09-05T15:48:45Z")

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> [@Beacher](#):
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> I’m assuming you keep pressure on the plunger and keep the needle inside you for a good 10 seconds after injecting, and release the skin if you’ve pinched up?

Yes. I do all of those things.

> [@Beacher](#):
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> Or may this is what you were reading. It applies to both pens and syringes.

That’s funny because that was my post, and now I think it was maybe you that had said something about why we don’t have to worry when we see a little insulin after an injection. Almost every time I’ll see insulin either on the needle or come from my skin. If I’m doing 12 or 14 of these shots a day, I would think it would add up?

I’ll go read this and see if I can find the answer…

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**Author:** ![bkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/da6949/32.png) [@bkh](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/bkh)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/insulin-on-needle-after-injection-no-need-to-worry/4899/4 "2018-09-05T16:17:58Z")

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> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> Almost every time I’ll see insulin either on the needle or come from my skin. If I’m doing 12 or 14 of these shots a day, I would think it would add up?

But it won’t matter, because if you see you are consistently getting too little effect from boluses or corrections, you’ll change your insulin:carb ratio and your correction ratio until they work better. After that, the little bit of lost insulin from injections will be a smaller effect than everything else that pushes our BG around all day long.

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**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/insulin-on-needle-after-injection-no-need-to-worry/4899/5 "2018-09-05T20:02:48Z")

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> [@bkh](#):
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> But it won’t matter, because if you see you are consistently getting too little effect from boluses or corrections, you’ll change your insulin:carb ratio and your correction ratio until they work better

So that is what I see, but it still doesn’t matter… I would just increase my carb ratio?? I’d do that rather than just adjusting up a unit if I feel like I might be missing some?

> [@bkh](#):
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> After that, the little bit of lost insulin from injections will be a smaller effect than everything else that pushes our BG around all day long.

Well, that’s the truth.

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**Author:** ![bkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/da6949/32.png) [@bkh](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/bkh)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 1:10am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/insulin-on-needle-after-injection-no-need-to-worry/4899/6 "2018-09-06T01:10:33Z")

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> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> So that is what I see, but it still doesn’t matter… I would just increase my carb ratio??

First I tune my basal until I believe it is about right: my BG doesn’t rise or fall all by itself when I am away from boluses, meals, exercise, and things like that. (Basal is the foundation, so tune it first.)

Then, if it is routine that after corrections my BG doesn’t drop as much as I calculated it should (even after 4 to 5 hours), that’s a hint that I needed more insulin, so strengthening my correction ratio would fix that. For example, I thought 1u of insulin should drop my BG by 25u, but if I routinely end up high, maybe 1u only drops me by 24u, or 23u. Keep adjusting until it’s working.

Similarly, if I typically find that after a calculated correction I end up going low, the correction was too strong, so I weaken the correction ratio to fix it.

If it is routine that after a meal bolus, my BG doesn’t come back down to about the same place as where it started (even after 4 to 5 hours), that’s a hint that I needed more insulin, so strengthening my insulin:carb ratio would fix that. On the other hand, if I find myself routinely going low after meals, I weaken the carb ratio so I don’t continue to get too much meal insulin.

> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> I’d do that rather than just adjusting up a unit if I feel like I might be missing some?

Try this experiment. Fill a syringe with 1u of water (why waste insulin). Don’t inject it, just deliver it onto your skin to see how big a drop you get. How does that compare with the amount of leakage you are seeing from insulin injections? I’m guessing that your “lost insulin” from an injection is much less than 1u, in which case you wouldn’t want to take a whole extra unit when you inject.

Back when I was on MDI, the syringes I had were 30u with 1u markings, but I routinely dosed to the nearest 1/4 unit by filling the syringe with the plunger stopping between the lines part way between the marks if I wanted a fractional amount more. There’s no rule that says you’re only allowed to stop filling the syringe when the plunger is exactly on one of the lines. Of course if you are using a pen you don’t have that ability to choose in-between amounts.

My point is that if, after trying the water experiment you think that you are losing 1/4u of insulin every time you inject, I suppose you could increase your dose by 1/4u every time, but I’m guessing the leakage is so small it doesn’t really matter.
