# Ingenuity saves a life

**URL:** https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/ingenuity-saves-a-life/4043
**Category:** Type 1 & LADA
**Created:** [May 17, 2018, 8:00am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/ingenuity-saves-a-life/4043 "2018-05-17T08:00:05Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author: ![TiaG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/tiag/32/594_2.png) [@TiaG](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TiaG)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2018, 8:00am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/ingenuity-saves-a-life/4043/1 "2018-05-17T08:00:05Z")

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This was an interesting story! Reminds me of some of the hacks folks here at FuD engage in.

> **[Indian Engineering Student Saves Diabetic Passenger On Flight](https://www.asianscientist.com/2018/05/features/medical-emergency-diabetes-engineering/)**
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> Thanks to the quick thinking of IITK engineering student Karttikeya Mangalam aboard a flight from Geneva to New Delhi, a diabetic passenger’s life was saved.

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### Author: ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/ingenuity-saves-a-life/4043/2 "2018-05-17T15:25:32Z")

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Very cool story. Knowing many engineers myself, there aren’t many stories where the engineer is one of the hero’s. It gives every engineering hope!

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### Author: ![Aaron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/aaron/32/1454_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Aaron)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/ingenuity-saves-a-life/4043/3 "2018-05-17T17:59:54Z")

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> he thanked me a lot and told me to come visit him in Amsterdam where he owns his own restaurant and brewery and where I supposedly would receive as much free food and beer as I want when I come!”

Well that was a good ending.

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### Author: ![MM2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/mm2/32/3032_2.png) [@MM2](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/MM2)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/ingenuity-saves-a-life/4043/4 "2018-05-17T19:44:26Z")

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I was surprised that neither the person or doctor had a backup syringe. Like Eric’s post, I ALWAYS have one tucked in my meter case… just in case.

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### Author: ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/ingenuity-saves-a-life/4043/5 "2018-05-17T20:17:21Z")

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Not to mention someone on that plane probably had a syringe for something, it just isn’t that uncommon I think.

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### Author: ![Aaron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/aaron/32/1454_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Aaron)
#### Post date: [May 18, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/ingenuity-saves-a-life/4043/6 "2018-05-18T05:37:36Z")

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I have a back-up 30u syringe in my meter case too. Just check it and yes it has been used before 😆

What I find odd is that when I travel I keep my meter and back-up insulin and pens with me in my carry-on. I know that it has been proven that frozen insulin can still work, but I would not chance it.

With that said, back when I was doing R/NPH MDI I was travelling in Scandinavia about 20 years ago and went on an overnight trip from my home base where my major supply stash was. When I arrived at the destination I realized all I had was a pen of NPH… which made it memorable as I needed to time the NPH peak from a shot at lunchtime for the beer that I would consume at dinner and evening. Ahh… i hope the folks who have kids nearing college age are not reading this…

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### Author: ![MM2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/mm2/32/3032_2.png) [@MM2](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/MM2)
#### Post date: [May 18, 2018, 6:09am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/ingenuity-saves-a-life/4043/7 "2018-05-18T06:09:24Z")

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> [@Aaron](#):
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> all I had was a pen of NPH

Really, NPH came/comes in a pen ?  
I used animal NPH,REG With syringes, until 1996ish, and then started pump with animal Regular. I think human regular was a couple years later, then Humalog, Novolog dance with PBM, in pump since then. Maybe 5 syringe injections in the past 22 years, compared to 0 for pen for any kind!

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### Author: ![Aaron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/aaron/32/1454_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Aaron)
#### Post date: [May 18, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/ingenuity-saves-a-life/4043/8 "2018-05-18T20:11:16Z")

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Yes NPH came in a penfill. I just was cleaning out some old tax forms and found an NPH penfill pharmacy receipt from around 2000.

I started using pens for Humulin R and Humulin NPH around 1996. I found it fit my lifestyle at the time much better than carrying around syringes. I was also doing MDI at the time.
