# Hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19 **URL:** \ **Category:** Type 1 & LADA\ **Created:** [March 31, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565 "2020-03-31T16:26:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 4:40am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/61 "2020-04-01T04:40:09Z")
Including the approved use for arizromycin, chloroquine, and hydroxychloroquine You know what else was fast tracked by whatever mechanisms existed at the time due to critical needs ? Insulin. ---
**Author:** ![ClaudnDaye](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/claudndaye/32/5_2.png) [@ClaudnDaye](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/ClaudnDaye)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 4:58am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/62 "2020-04-01T04:58:04Z")
> [@Sam](#): > > You know what else was fast tracked by whatever mechanisms existed at the time due to critical needs ? Insulin. 5 months. After 2 years of clinical trials by Lilly. ---
**Author:** ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 4:59am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/63 "2020-04-01T04:59:52Z")
Ok… don’t take it then. I give up. Or just wait for 5 years until a drug that’s been taken for 60 years all over the world is studied to your satisfaction. ---
**Author:** ![ClaudnDaye](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/claudndaye/32/5_2.png) [@ClaudnDaye](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/ClaudnDaye)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 5:02am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/64 "2020-04-01T05:02:20Z")
> **[Record-Time FDA Approval of Human Insulin In 1982: When Genetic Engineering...](https://www.acsh.org/news/2019/10/28/record-time-fda-approval-human-insulin-1982-when-genetic-engineering-came-age-14362)** > > This week marks the 37th anniversary of the approval of human insulin – the first biotech drug ever. Almost as revolutionary as the drug was its five-month approval by the FDA, which was two years less than average. Dr. Henry Miller celebrates the... Doesn’t seem like critical need was the driving force behind the approval but i might have misread it. ---
**Author:** ![ClaudnDaye](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/claudndaye/32/5_2.png) [@ClaudnDaye](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/ClaudnDaye)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 5:05am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/65 "2020-04-01T05:05:21Z")
We are all going to get covid eventually. And until a vaccine is developed (12 a 18 months) I plan on making sure i follow the scientific guidance to avoid getting it. ---
**Author:** ![Trying](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/trying/32/4078_2.png) [@Trying](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Trying)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 2:20pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/66 "2020-04-01T14:20:06Z")
I was prescribed it for Lupus many years ago. I declined to take it though as I was afraid of getting eye damage, knowing I already had eye complication potential from T1D. ---
**Author:** ![G6newbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8baadc/32.png) [@G6newbie](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/G6newbie)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/67 "2020-04-01T18:01:48Z")
As a clinician, I practice evidence based medicine. There are currently no double blinded control research studies that indicate efficacy of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for Covid-19. Until that time, I would NOT take these medications as they can be very toxic.Do not trust anecdotal accounts or the idiocy coming from certain individuals who do not understand anything about medicine and practicing evidence based medicine. Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx are brilliant scientists and researchers who manage public health around the world. Listen to their recommendations. ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/68 "2020-04-01T19:14:22Z")
Split this topic on April 1, 2020, 7:14pm UTC A post was split to a new topic: [Chloroquine and the president](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/chloroquine-and-the-president/9578) ---
**Author:** ![Jan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/jan/32/7539_2.png) [@Jan](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/69 "2020-04-01T19:05:47Z")
> [@G6newbie](#): > > I would NOT take these medications as they can be very toxic. Then your colleagues have practiced irresponsible medicine for many, many years by commonly prescribing a very toxic drug (your words) as a prophalactic for malaria when traveling or living abroad. ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/70 "2020-04-01T19:09:10Z")
> [@Jan](#): > > your colleagues have practiced irresponsible medicine for many, many years by commonly prescribing a very toxic drug (your words) as a prophalactic for malaria I lived in malaria-infected areas for years in the 60s and early 70s. This was given to us along with thorough briefings on the dangers of the drugs and warnings about symptoms that we should watch and immediately see a doctor about. When you are likely to get malaria, a possibly dangerous drug is a fair exchange of risk. Let’s not trivialize these drugs. ---
**Author:** ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/71 "2020-04-01T19:11:41Z")
Yeah let’s not trivialize Zithromax either, which “evidence based clinicians” have been using essentially as a placebo millions of times a year in this country for things it’s not indicated for also Now we’re real concerned about the risks all of a sudden ---
**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/72 "2020-04-01T19:21:10Z")
I wouldn’t say we are worried about risks all of a sudden. Everything that is done is medicine is a risk vs reward. When the reward is big enough the risks become worth it, and any physician worth their salts weighs these items, at some level makes the patient aware of them and treatment is commenced. It is highly problematic in my opinion to take drugs when the reward hasn’t been sufficiently defined since the risks are still there. I have seen a number of patients who underwent cardiac procedures that were a bit ill defined and ended up with horrible complications. Made me sad every time. ---
**Author:** ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/73 "2020-04-01T19:22:13Z")
Nobody was concerned about their risks before last week. For anything. Whenever there was any thought that they might have been benecial, even potentially, worldwide, these meds have been widely prescribed without hesitation; for decades Now there’s a significant possibility that they may be immediately lifesaving, and oh no… big red flag ---
**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/74 "2020-04-01T19:23:20Z")
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. No problem or ill feelings intended. ---
**Author:** ![Jan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/jan/32/7539_2.png) [@Jan](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/75 "2020-04-01T19:23:56Z")
> [@Michel](#): > > Let’s not trivialize these drugs. I wouldn’t trivialize any prescription drug, as none, including insulin, are free of potential side effects. It’s always a risk/reward decision. And often that decision isn’t easy. Believe me, I know as I have taken immune system modifying drugs for 22 years, and many of those decisions have been difficult. ---
**Author:** ![Jan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/jan/32/7539_2.png) [@Jan](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/76 "2020-04-01T19:31:40Z")
@Chris I don’t know about you, but I think that if I was intubated and seriously ill with Covid-19, I would be willing to try the hydroxychloroquine protocol (which by the way has been published by China and South Korea). Especially having taken it before. My risk/reward analysis would say the potential reward is worth the risk. ---
**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/77 "2020-04-01T19:33:47Z")
Of course, but then your reward would be much higher. I was specifically speaking to much of this thread that was focused on prophylactic use. I should have made myself more clear. ---
**Author:** ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/78 "2020-04-01T19:34:58Z")
I’d take it the first sniffle, sign of fever, or sore throat. Like I said we always took it when just passing through ports in west Africa for a few days at a time, it was no big deal and still isn’t, except now just might save life ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/79 "2020-04-01T19:35:16Z")
> [@Chris](#): > > Of course, but then your reward would be much higher. I was specifically speaking to much of this thread that was focused on prophylactic use. Agree with @Chris. Now, all, please lower the temperature in this thread. This is a diabetes forum, not a political one. ---
**Author:** ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565/80 "2020-04-01T19:38:19Z")
Nobody to my understanding has suggested it for prophylactic use (although it used by millions every day for that re malaria) but for first-line treatments covid19. At least that’s how I’ve read this discussion and the angle from which my comments come [Previous page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19/9565.md?page=5)