# Help starting out on Loop **URL:** \ **Category:** DIY\ **Tags:** closed-loop\ **Created:** [December 9, 2017, 1:30am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/help-starting-out-on-loop/2801 "2017-12-09T01:30:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 30
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/aaron/32/1454_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/help-starting-out-on-loop/2801/30 "2017-12-11T23:21:22Z")
@Michel - If you want to ease into this whole looping thing with an Omnipod, why not tryout AndroidAPS and “open Loop” or as I would call it - “basal suggestions”. It just needs an Android Phone running two apps - AndroidAPS and xdrip+ - no fancy hardware required except a watch is helpful. Some guy wrote about it on this website here… > [@AndroidAPS and Open Looping on an Omnipod](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/androidaps-and-open-looping-on-an-omnipod/1851): > > So anyways… There had been a bit of chatter on FU about how a few of us want a pump that calculates IOB based on both bolus and basal insulin. I use xdrip+ to capture my CGM data and I use Nightscout for reporting (I use a Dexcom G5 transmitter, a Sony SW3 watch as the collector, and a Samsung Galaxy S5 phone). xdrip+ does a great job of tracking IOB for boluses and doing BG predictions based on carbs on board; however, it does not take into account either temporary basals or extended bolus - … I talked to him today and he still uses it - His 7-day average is 104 (5.8) with a 27 (1.5) standard deviation. His trick is to always use a slightly higher basal rate then needed and have AndroidAPS set temp low basals. 😉 --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/help-starting-out-on-loop/2801)._