# Gratuitous Flat Line Post

**URL:** <https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/gratuitous-flat-line-post/1348>\
**Category:** Flatliners\
**Created:** [June 30, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/gratuitous-flat-line-post/1348 "2017-06-30T20:03:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![docslotnick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/docslotnick/32/75_2.png) [@docslotnick](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/docslotnick)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/gratuitous-flat-line-post/1348/1 "2017-06-30T20:03:46Z")

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I’ve reduced my carbs by about 25%/day, reduced basal from 70u/day to 50u/day, seen my C/I ratio go from .68 to around 2-3.

And best of all I’ve been getting many more days like this:

 ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fudiabetes/original/2X/1/101e231f0b0a7e8db7f07aa8ea4421e473976cff.png)

If I would have known that cutting carbs to \<100g/day would have done this I would have cut down a long time ago.

I know that it’s the carbs. I did have a recent c-peptide and I’m under .02, barely detectable.

On the couple of occasions in the past few weeks when I’ve had a high carb meal, I paid for it even though I took a much higher pre meal bolus. So I know that the problem had been too many carbs.

I guess you’re never too old to learn.

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**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/gratuitous-flat-line-post/1348/2 "2017-06-30T20:52:06Z")

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Nice graph!

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**Author:** ![Irish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/irish/32/57_2.png) [@Irish](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Irish)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/gratuitous-flat-line-post/1348/3 "2017-06-30T21:06:14Z")

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This looks awesome, @docslotnick! Well done!

SD: 10.8?! That’ll preach!!

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**Author:** ![docslotnick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/docslotnick/32/75_2.png) [@docslotnick](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/docslotnick)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/gratuitous-flat-line-post/1348/4 "2017-06-30T21:20:06Z")

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> [@Irish](#):
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> SD: 10.8?!

Yes! You noticed. A far cry from my old usual of 30-35. I’m hoping that my 90 day SD will come in at below 20 in a few months.

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**Author:** ![Irish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/irish/32/57_2.png) [@Irish](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Irish)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/gratuitous-flat-line-post/1348/5 "2017-06-30T21:25:15Z")

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I can’t believe that!

Even on a good day for me, I can have an sd of 70. That’s dipping into the 50s for a daily low and climbing up to 120.

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**Author:** ![lh378](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/lh378/32/601_2.png) [@lh378](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/lh378)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/gratuitous-flat-line-post/1348/6 "2017-07-01T14:51:32Z")

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Very nicely done.

Reducing carbs works much better for many of us. I am not a strict LCHF (which is 6g, 12g, 12g daily); I’m more like about 60g daily and have found my BG’s to be much better and my most recent a1c was 6 and I check my BG about 6x daily, usually between 80 to 120 with occasional 60’s and 130’s. If I eat more than 1 slice of pizza, no matter how I dose, it often results in over 150. So I minimize those occasions. For me, a pizza is not worth the trouble.

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**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/gratuitous-flat-line-post/1348/7 "2017-07-02T22:23:06Z")

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> [@lh378](#):
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> For me, a pizza is not worth the trouble.

i used to do a LCHF diet, and i found that if i should have the occasional english muffin (or other high carb foods, like pizza) i needed to do a dual bolus just to handle the physical confusion for putting all the carbs into my bloodstream. but then i started needing carbs for my swimming, so i gradually increased my carbs, and now i no longer spike, nor do i need to dual bolus. i have no problem at all. and, i get to enjoy pizza and burgers **with** the buns. its been truly worthwhile to me !!! the only thing the LC did for me was to keep me very skinny. so, now i look physically fit AND, i get to eat things i enjoy.

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**Author:** ![lh378](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/lh378/32/601_2.png) [@lh378](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/lh378)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/gratuitous-flat-line-post/1348/8 "2017-08-19T17:10:26Z")

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I’m watching"Eat Fat Get Thin" on my local PBS channel.

It was stated that sugar is a recreational drug. 🙂  
He also mentioned resistant starch, probiotics,…etc in addition to eating REAL foods.

Is there a discussion about nutrition/diet and their effects on 1. diabetes and 2. general health? Do we need to split this thread?