# Glucagon Noob—but up for a good experiment

**URL:** <https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501>\
**Category:** Type 1 & LADA\
**Created:** [October 13, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501 "2019-10-13T16:11:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 11:49pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/21 "2019-10-14T23:49:23Z")

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**Author:** ![Thomas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/thomas/32/1719_2.png) [@Thomas](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Thomas)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/22 "2019-10-14T23:56:30Z")

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> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> Can I do even better and just edit it?? 🤣🤣 I meant it’s marked “practice” (because it is so old it’ll probably turn to dust if I pick it up)… and I obviously _haven’t_ practiced…

So the solid glucagon tab is still in solid form in the vial and the syringe still has the liquid and nothing has been done. Which means this is simply an older Glucagon kit.

As opposed to a previously used kit.  
lol  
(Just checking… I found the wording sightly ambiguous.)

Ignore me and drive on.

🤪

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**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/23 "2019-10-15T00:04:50Z")

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I used one from 2014 and it was 3 years old and I had no problem.  
[forum.fudiabetes.org/t/expired-glucagon](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/expired-glucagon/1417/9)

Seriously, just use the oldest first.

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**Author:** ![T1Allison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c77e96/32.png) [@T1Allison](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/T1Allison)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/24 "2019-10-15T00:45:51Z")

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@Nickyghaleb, “use by July 2013” doesn’t seem too bad! I’m wearing nightshirts way older than that still.

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**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 12:59am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/25 "2019-10-15T00:59:16Z")

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I _really_ should’ve actually taken one of these things out before coming into _this particular group_ asking questions.

I’m not asking any more questions or making eye contact with anyone else till I get it all out of its little packages tomorrow. 🙅🏻‍♀️

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**Author:** ![Thomas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/thomas/32/1719_2.png) [@Thomas](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Thomas)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/26 "2019-10-15T02:10:22Z")

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👀

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**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 4:44am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/27 "2019-10-15T04:44:33Z")

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…🙈

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**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/28 "2019-10-15T22:41:13Z")

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Sub-q or IM?!

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**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 2:56am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/29 "2019-10-16T02:56:11Z")

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> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> Sub-q or IM?

The needle that comes with the Lilly kit is a beastly 5/8 inches (16mm). That tells me that while IM may not be absolutely necessary, the makers of the kit are definitely not afraid of it going IM.

Cut out the middle-man (slower absorption from fatty tissue), and go IM. It won’t cause you any problems and it will be faster. 👍

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**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/30 "2019-10-17T19:59:56Z")

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Been playing with glucagon for the last couple of days. Can’t tell if I’m doing it right. 😁

I do know it doesn’t lower my blood sugar. I _have_ been able to conclude that much. Any conclusion beyond that is going to take a more organized experiment.

I do have a question, and if this reveals the fact I haven’t read the other glucagon threads yet even though I said I would, I’d like to confess now I haven’t read the other threads yet… My question is _if the solid form of glucagon doesn’t really ever expire, and the adding of water is what gives it that short-lived “good by” period, is there any way to break up the tablet and store in pieces?_ It would be wonderful to be able to wake up at 3:30 in the morning and do a quick shot rather than eating a pound of skittles. Getting sick of the skittles. _Really_ sick of the skittles.

Or should I go read the threads because all of this and more is on them? 🤔

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**Author:** ![Thomas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/thomas/32/1719_2.png) [@Thomas](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Thomas)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/31 "2019-10-17T20:08:58Z")

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> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> My question is _if the solid form of glucagon doesn’t really ever expire, and the adding of water is what gives it that short-lived “good by” period, is there any way to break up the tablet and store in pieces?_

So basically you are saying that Glucagon should be treated the same as Nuclear Fusion.

I totally agree.

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**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/32 "2019-10-17T20:15:05Z")

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> [@Thomas](#):
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> So basically you are saying that Glucagon should be treated the same as Nuclear Fusion.

Maybe… Looking up Nuclear Fusion now.

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**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/33 "2019-10-17T21:11:01Z")

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> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> My question is _if the solid form of glucagon doesn’t really ever expire, and the adding of water is what gives it that short-lived “good by” period, is there any way to break up the tablet and store in pieces?_

Yes. I wrote that up a while ago. I can try to find it for you.

Quick version of what I wrote…

The way to do it is break the tablet into powder, divide the powder into equal portions (such as 1/5th). And then store those portions in different syringes.

When you want to use a portion, draw some solution into one of those syringes (careful not to inject back into the solution vial), roll it to mix, and inject.

The syringes give you a nice waterproof sterile place to store it.

Make sense?

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**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/34 "2019-10-17T22:04:29Z")

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Makes perfect sense. By “solution” you mean what comes in the vial in the actual kit? Right?

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**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/35 "2019-10-17T22:45:06Z")

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> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> By “solution” you mean what comes in the vial in the actual kit?

Yes!

Also, once you’ve drawn solution into the syringe and have rolled it to dissolve the glucagon powder, expel the air from the syringe and then inject.

If you divide the powder into 1/5ths, that would mean you need to take 20 units of solution into the syringe (because that is also 1/5th of the solution amount).

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**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/36 "2019-10-18T00:13:17Z")

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> [@Eric](#):
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> If you divide the powder into 1/5ths, that would mean you need to take 20 units of solution into the syringe (because that is also 1/5th of the solution amount)

I think I’ll try to set me up some syringes and will try it a couple of times during the daytime.

Any way to do this without looking like a junkie? I feel like this is gonna make people nervous. 😁

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**Author:** ![T1Allison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c77e96/32.png) [@T1Allison](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/T1Allison)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 12:17am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/37 "2019-10-18T00:17:29Z")

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> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> Any way to do this without looking like a junkie?

Wash your hair and wear clothes that fit. Then no one will notice what you’re doing with white powder or needles. 😁

It’s the same reason Lewis Black’s uncontrollable anger works for his stand up routine. Bc he wears a suit. When he wears his regular casual clothes, his way of talking makes him look like a psycho, homeless person. No offense to homeless people.

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**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 12:30am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/38 "2019-10-18T00:30:51Z")

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> [@T1Allison](#):
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> Wash your hair and wear clothes that fit. Then no one will notice what you’re doing with white powder or needles. 😁

🤣🤣

So then you mean avoid doing it in my typical state…

Like not to do it tonight. Or maybe not tomorrow… Saturday looks good.

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**Author:** ![T1Allison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c77e96/32.png) [@T1Allison](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/T1Allison)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/39 "2019-10-18T00:33:13Z")

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I was just thinking that my hair has passed the point where it looks passably clean in a ponytail (like it gets those hair bubbles that just shine…and you purposefully don’t brush it bc it puts rows in your hair that give you away)…but I do not feel like washing/straightening it tonight…or tomorrow…hmmm…

And I’m calling my oversized sweatshirt a “tunic” to sound relevant…

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**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/glucagon-noob-but-up-for-a-good-experiment/8501/40 "2019-10-18T00:36:51Z")

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🤣🤣🤣🤣you are _KILLING ME_…

That description is reeeeeaaally making me want to take a picture of this shirt right here… and this _not wet_ shiny hair that’s falling over top of it. 🤣🤣

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