# Global Fees - What the Heck

**URL:** https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312
**Category:** Insurance
**Tags:** type-1, type-2, insurance, type3c
**Created:** [April 23, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312 "2019-04-23T14:19:26Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![elver](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/elver/32/8772_2.png) [@elver](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/elver)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/1 "2019-04-23T14:19:26Z")

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> [@Active Insulin Time (Duration of Insulin Action?) Basics For an Experienced Diabetic Noob](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/active-insulin-time-duration-of-insulin-action-basics-for-an-experienced-diabetic-noob/4568/20):
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> Well, that, and all the prescription power and all my copays and now a global fee I will be handing over to her at every appointment…

Global fee? What in the heck is that?

> [@Active Insulin Time (Duration of Insulin Action?) Basics For an Experienced Diabetic Noob](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/active-insulin-time-duration-of-insulin-action-basics-for-an-experienced-diabetic-noob/4568/19):
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> I’m not sure I qualify as everyone’s “younger” sister around here. Unless we’re talking years in maturity. That might make sense.

Years I got you on, maturity… You win.

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/2 "2019-04-23T14:20:57Z")

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> [@Active Insulin Time (Duration of Insulin Action?) Basics For an Experienced Diabetic Noob](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/active-insulin-time-duration-of-insulin-action-basics-for-an-experienced-diabetic-noob/4568/21):
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> Wanna trade??? Because you miss the 670g so much

Nice try. You’re gonna have to find some other silly sucker for that crooked deal.

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/3 "2019-04-23T14:22:57Z")

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> [@Active Insulin Time (Duration of Insulin Action?) Basics For an Experienced Diabetic Noob](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/active-insulin-time-duration-of-insulin-action-basics-for-an-experienced-diabetic-noob/4568/22):
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> Global fee? What in the heck is that?

That’s $1000 is what the heck that is. Same endo, same appointment time, same everything. Imma ask her to throw in a foot massage at least. 😁

> [@Active Insulin Time (Duration of Insulin Action?) Basics For an Experienced Diabetic Noob](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/active-insulin-time-duration-of-insulin-action-basics-for-an-experienced-diabetic-noob/4568/22):
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> maturity… You win.

@elver, then we are in _trouble_. 🤦‍♀️

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### Author: ![elver](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/elver/32/8772_2.png) [@elver](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/elver)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/4 "2019-04-23T16:22:28Z")

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Well at least they haven’t figured out how to charge us for the oxygen in the waiting room yet, or the use of the chairs we occupy when the Dr’s are running +30 min late.

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### Author: ![Thomas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/thomas/32/1719_2.png) [@Thomas](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Thomas)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/5 "2019-04-23T20:17:02Z")

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> [@Active Insulin Time (Duration of Insulin Action?) Basics For an Experienced Diabetic Noob](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/active-insulin-time-duration-of-insulin-action-basics-for-an-experienced-diabetic-noob/4568/17):
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> The long version is a LOT more exciting. 😁

Let’s have it !!!  
😇

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/6 "2019-04-23T20:36:32Z")

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> [@Active Insulin Time (Duration of Insulin Action?) Basics For an Experienced Diabetic Noob](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/active-insulin-time-duration-of-insulin-action-basics-for-an-experienced-diabetic-noob/4568/26):
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> Let’s have it !!!

Don’t tempt me. I’ve got a pot of coffee, an empty house, and a _lot_ of stuff to say… 😁

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/7 "2019-04-23T20:39:04Z")

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> [@Active Insulin Time (Duration of Insulin Action?) Basics For an Experienced Diabetic Noob](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/active-insulin-time-duration-of-insulin-action-basics-for-an-experienced-diabetic-noob/4568/25):
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> Well at least they haven’t figured out how to charge us for the oxygen in the waiting room yet

“Global Fee”. I think mine has. They were like, “we’re gonna start charging people for air in the waiting room. We’re gonna call it ‘air fee’”. And someone was like, “can’t do that. Someone will figure it out. Call it ‘global fee’”

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### Author: ![mike\_g](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@mike\_g](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/mike_g)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2019, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/8 "2019-04-25T12:32:53Z")

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> [@Active Insulin Time (Duration of Insulin Action?) Basics For an Experienced Diabetic Noob](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/active-insulin-time-duration-of-insulin-action-basics-for-an-experienced-diabetic-noob/4568/20):
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> and now a global fee I will be handing over to her at every appointment…

? So your endo changes you a $1000 per visit fee, plus, I assume, other charges for services rendered, for every visit?

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/9 "2019-04-25T14:53:43Z")

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> [@Active Insulin Time (Duration of Insulin Action?) Basics For an Experienced Diabetic Noob](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/active-insulin-time-duration-of-insulin-action-basics-for-an-experienced-diabetic-noob/4568/29):
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> So your endo changes you a $1000 per visit fee,

No… not per visit. Not yet. 😁. No, it’s an annual fee.

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### Author: ![ClaudnDaye](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/claudndaye/32/5_2.png) [@ClaudnDaye](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/ClaudnDaye)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/10 "2019-04-25T17:16:58Z")

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> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> Imma ask her to throw in a foot massage at least.

Yay for happy endings!!!

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### Author: ![allison](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/allison/32/10718_2.png) [@allison](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/allison)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/11 "2019-04-25T18:41:55Z")

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Soooo $1000 per year, then fees for each visit on top of that? This had better be the best endo EVER TO HAVE LIVED.

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/12 "2019-04-25T18:48:36Z")

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> [@allison](#):
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> This had better be the best endo EVER TO HAVE LIVED.

Word is she gives killer foot massages at the end… you just have to ask. 🤷‍♀️

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### Author: ![elver](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/elver/32/8772_2.png) [@elver](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/elver)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/13 "2019-04-25T19:09:07Z")

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> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> Word is she gives killer foot massages at the end… you just have to ask. 🤷‍♀️

I personally would be looking for a new endo - foot massage or no. That endo had better have a tapped keg in the patient rooms like the haircut places in Bend Oregon have. Otherwise… fugheddaboutit!

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### Author: ![allison](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/allison/32/10718_2.png) [@allison](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/allison)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/14 "2019-04-25T19:17:30Z")

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Ugh, do you have any other options?? Is it worth it?! Unless someone is following me around and managing my diabetes for me, I can’t imagine it being worth that much (plus other fees).

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/15 "2019-04-25T19:41:46Z")

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> [@allison](#):
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> Unless someone is following me around and managing my diabetes for me, I can’t imagine it being worth that much (plus other fees).

At this point in my management (thank you, FUD and @Eric), I’m only interested in paying someone to _not_ follow me around and manage my diabetes. 😁

I have no idea what this all means. I just got a letter from her office about a week and a half ago, and I haven’t had the time to follow up on it. I see her in less than a month. I like her very much as a person, but I’ve also been on the fence over a few recent prescription skirmishes (that have occurred only because of my recent growth and seeking of independence), SO… it won’t take much to send me looking. Much less than $1000. Then I’ll continue sending her messages through patient portal as a friend. 😁

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### Author: ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/16 "2019-04-25T19:44:35Z")

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Is that amount billed to your insurance, or do you have to pay some or all of it?

Seems crazy, but is also the second mention of office fee’s this week. Kind of scary.

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### Author: ![Aaron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/aaron/32/1454_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Aaron)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/17 "2019-04-25T19:57:15Z")

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At this point the Canadian in the forum chimes in and says - Fees for seeing and endo? I have no idea what the government pays my endo… (I know I pay higher taxes).

Actually - here is what endos in my part of the world are paid per vist… (In Canadian Dollars).

> **[msc\_payment\_schedule.pdf](https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/health/practitioner-pro/medical-services-plan/msc_payment_schedule.pdf)**

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fudiabetes/original/2X/a/ac725b9a36cf70c9e131ed268a42ff8d591c6543.png)

No wonder most of my Doctor friends moved to the US to practice medicine.

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### Author: ![allison](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/allison/32/10718_2.png) [@allison](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/allison)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/18 "2019-04-25T20:06:03Z")

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Oh absolutely, I don’t want someone telling me what to do, but if a magical diabetes fairy showed up and followed me around, managing my BGs and insulin for me so I didn’t even feel diabetic, I’d pay big bucks for that!

I hope you can keep using the portal for free, at least 😉

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/19 "2019-04-25T20:17:22Z")

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> [@elver](#):
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> That endo had better have a tapped keg in the patient rooms like the haircut places in Bend Oregon have. Otherwise… fugheddaboutit!

I think I finally have something for that _suggestion box_ on her front desk. 🤣

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/global-fees-what-the-heck/7312/20 "2019-04-25T20:27:30Z")

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Then, since my family has looked in the direction of Canada in the past as a possible future residence, I’d like to ask the resident FUD Canadian what the time frames are like for getting in to see someone. Those values there are pretty unbelievable… not that I don’t _believe_ you, but it’s just insane— and it makes me wonder if there’s a trade off. Because I’ve heard there is a trade off. Should’ve started with that. 😁 If I want to see a specialist of any kind, I can reasonably expect to have an appointment or to have the process underway any time from next day to a month or two— depending on the specialty. This is really off topic, sorry— I’m just curious. I pictured moving to Canada and waiting 8 months to see a primary care physician. Not real?

And about those values. Sometimes I will ask for an itemized receipt from a hospital visit just for the laugh. (And to check it, of course). Did you know there are $900 pills of Tylenol?

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