# Frozen Shoulder?
**URL:** https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/frozen-shoulder/12541
**Category:** Type 1 & LADA
**Created:** [March 25, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/frozen-shoulder/12541 "2022-03-25T01:12:57Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@beans\_betes](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/beans_betes)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/frozen-shoulder/12541/1 "2022-03-25T01:12:57Z")
I’ve heard about frozen shoulder for years, and I wonder if I could be developing it? I have pain in my left shoulder, which feels exactly like after a vaccine, but it’s been a month or two now out of nowhere. It’s right at the top of the arm near where the socket is to my shoulder if that makes sense. Or, maybe arthritis? I am 41. I’ve always been able to dislocate that particular shoulder without feeling pain, actually it feels like i need to, like the need to crack a knuckle, and sometimes it makes a loud crack or pop sound when I do that feels very satisfying. Does any of this sound like frozen shoulder? Or maybe just a random pain or maybe my history? I’m about to go to physio for my knee, so I’ll ask when I’m there too. It’s not TERRIBLE, but it’s annoying. Mostly noticeable if I do a lay raise to the side.
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### Author:  [@MM2](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/MM2)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2022, 1:49am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/frozen-shoulder/12541/2 "2022-03-25T01:49:07Z")
When i had frozen shoulders, i was unable to move arm in certain ways. For example, could not reach back pants pocket, or painful to reach for car radio knob, or raise hands staight up.
Treatment was 30+ years ago before cgm, pump and improved A1Cs. I had steroid injections and PT, and took several months to improve. With improved BGs, i did not experience that pain again!!
(But i cringe when i see gymnastics, I’m pretty sure i don’t have that level of flexibility. )
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### Author:  [@beans\_betes](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/beans_betes)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2022, 5:29am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/frozen-shoulder/12541/3 "2022-03-25T05:29:32Z")
Yikes! I don’t have it that bad, and the physio therapist didn’t say anything about it. That said, my meniscus is the main issue she’s looking at, followed by my years long hip flexor injury. I’m falling apart! Is this just because I’m in my 40s now? I am starting to make a concerted effort to take good care of myself now. Not so much the last 10 years… I guess better late than never.
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### Author:  [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/frozen-shoulder/12541/4 "2022-03-25T14:20:19Z")
I can’t say from your description, but you should talk to your physical therapist about it. It’s easy to treat. Easy meaning maybe an injection, and doing PT for a while.
I had it a few years ago. Mine was from landing on it really hard.
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### Author:  [@Margoriebest](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Margoriebest)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/frozen-shoulder/12541/5 "2022-03-29T01:26:09Z")
Hi. You may like to “Google” Diabetic cheiroarthropathy. This is a condition of the connective tissues and can lead to reduced joint mobility. It means that type ones have a higher incidence than the normal population of shoulder problems, carpal tunnel syndrome, trigger fingers, dupuytrens contracture, plantar fasciitis and achilles tendon issues. There are loads of internet articles such as this one:-
[https://www.uptodate.com/contents/limited-joint-mobility-in-diabetes-mellitus](https://www.uptodate.com/contents/limited-joint-mobility-in-diabetes-mellitus)
I personally have had frozen shoulder, carpal tunnel in both hands, trigger finger in all of my fingers at different times, dupuytrens contracture and plantar fasciitis. Unfortunately I have encountered many doctors who did not know that these conditions are related to diabetes. If some doctors don’t know about this condition, that can lead to missing the opportunity for available treatments .
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### Author:  [@beans\_betes](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/beans_betes)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2022, 7:25am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/frozen-shoulder/12541/6 "2022-03-29T07:25:08Z")
Thank you! I will look into this for sure.
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### Author:  [@MM2](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/MM2)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2022, 8:10am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/frozen-shoulder/12541/7 "2022-03-29T08:10:21Z")
> [@Margoriebest](#):
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> I personally have had frozen shoulder, carpal tunnel in both hands, trigger finger in all of my fingers at different times,
My story is similar, and noticed your profile shows diagnosis a couple years before me.
Trigger fingers were the weirdest thing, and i had several surgeries too.
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### Author:  [@beans\_betes](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/beans_betes)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2022, 12:21am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/frozen-shoulder/12541/8 "2022-04-01T00:21:30Z")
Update: the physiotherapist says it’s not frozen shoulder. I have a follow up appointment to determine what the heck it is. We ran out of time.
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### Author:  [@Strat1117](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Strat1117)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2023, 12:29pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/frozen-shoulder/12541/9 "2023-01-24T12:29:43Z")
I’m sure you have this all sorted out by now, but I’d say the culprit is more likely the recurrent dislocations. I had that after a skiing injury when I was in law school in the early 1980’s, long before any thought of D came into my life, and ended up needing a Bancart procedure in 1997 (the hockey player surgery where they cut all the loose tendons that are supposed to be holding your shoulder in place then tie them back tighter - probably outdated by now). I also ended up with 3 titanium pins in my shoulder to repair the broken bone that went along with it. But the point is that was \>25 years ago, the shoulder has been perfect ever since and, in retrospect, I wish I hadn’t waited 10+ years to do the surgery.
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### Author:  [@CarlosLuis](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/CarlosLuis)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/frozen-shoulder/12541/10 "2023-01-24T16:21:48Z")
> [@Margoriebest](#):
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> It means that type ones have a higher incidence than the normal population of shoulder problems, carpal tunnel syndrome, trigger fingers, dupuytrens contracture, plantar fasciitis and achilles tendon issues.
Just type 1s, it certainly happens with type 2s as well. In fact all diabetic complications believe are equal opportunity employers. About the only thing is type 2s are less prone to DKA.