# DN’s Running and Other Mishaps Thread

**URL:** https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398
**Category:** Sports & Exercise
**Created:** [July 5, 2018, 11:53pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398 "2018-07-05T23:53:41Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1191 "2019-03-13T14:08:44Z")

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Okay, @Eric. Please tell me this is how you wanted it. The only little notes I’d like to attach (and, trust me, I’ve really trimmed these down 😁) is that days 5 and 6 included oatmeal and some more mealtime carbs. I’m hoping to keep that going. Also, the one that says Day 7 isn’t really day 7… it was the one I told you about with the crashing and whatnot. The only reason I included it is that although I like to think of it as an “atypical” day, I’m not so sure it is. As I was flipping through my _History_, I noticed a fair number of days where my total bolus units were in the 30s. I _really_, _genuinely_ feel like the 6 days I logged were very standard routine days for me, but I’m not sure what to make of those other days I saw in there.

That’s all I’m saying. The _great_ news is this got easy in the end— the logging. If I need to do it again, no problem. 😁

And now, without further ado… 😁

![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fudiabetes/original/2X/7/7a786e1ff991c812c618fb1d6d8814f952d89c78.jpeg)

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### Author: ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1192 "2019-03-13T15:15:27Z")

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> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> Please tell me this is how you wanted it.

Perfect! Exactly what I wanted to see.

Can you put them as numbers in a post for me so I can copy them into a spreadsheet for you?

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1193 "2019-03-13T15:28:34Z")

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You mean just put them in a response?? Like I do my BG stuff?

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### Author: ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1194 "2019-03-13T15:29:04Z")

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Yes please!

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1195 "2019-03-13T15:30:04Z")

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You know all I needed was that song, right?? 😁

Yes, of course. Gimme a sec…

10 minutes.

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### Author: ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1196 "2019-03-13T15:39:14Z")

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> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> You know all I needed was that song, right?? 😁

> Oh Nicky, you did your stuff  
> You did your stuff like I asked, hey Nicky  
> Hey Nicky
> 
> You finally did your numbers, what took you so long?  
> If I had known it woulda helped, I woulda already done the song

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1197 "2019-03-13T16:01:46Z")

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🤣🤣  
If I had known the song would help, I would’ve asked for it. 😃

Day. Carbs. Protein. Fat. Bolus. Basal

1. 

```
    125. 91. 75. 20.4. 25.06

```

2. 

```
     106. 81. 68. 17.81. 24.15

```

3. 

```
     116. 44. 35. 18.03. 24.87

```

4. 

```
     137. 94. 51. 22.3. 20.45

```

5. 

```
     152. 53. 34. 25. 21.05

```

6. 

```
     175. 58. 33. 27.25. 26.43

```

7. 

```
     219. 41. 63. 31.67. 25,37

```

That’s a messs. I apologize, but I’m late for a run date. 😃

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1198 "2019-03-13T16:02:23Z")

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In all fairness… that came up even MESSIER than what it looked like when i wrote it. I will be back to fix if you’d like…

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1199 "2019-03-13T17:10:27Z")

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Just getting to really take a look at what I gave you… I have a few exercises to do and then I’m all done. Can I fix that?? I didn’t know it was going to put my stuff in lines like that… it took my days, which I guess thought were numbered entries, and tried to organize it. 🤦‍♀️

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### Author: ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1200 "2019-03-13T17:23:59Z")

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Okay, your carb percentage per day is a bit on the low-ish side for your activity. The consecutive mileage days are going to wear you out a bit.

I suggest increasing your carb percentage a bit. See if you can get that up to about 55%. About 50 grams more carbs per day gets you close to that percentage.

If you want to make any calorie reductions, I suggest trying to drop the fat number down to 25% if you can. That’s a tough one, lots of delicious things have fat.

All-in-all, nothing horrible.

Here are your calorie percentage averages:

| Calories from carbs | Calories from protein | Calories from fat | Total Calories |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 589 | 264 | 462 | 1314 |
| **44.8%** | **20.1%** | **35.1%** | |

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1201 "2019-03-13T20:12:58Z")

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> [@Eric](#):
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> I suggest increasing your carb percentage a bit. See if you can get that up to about 55%. About 50 grams more carbs per day gets you close to that percentage.

From which day? The day I had 219 g was a crashy day. It was probably 150g of Welch’s Fruit Snacks. The day I had 175 grams was a recent one where I’d already begun making a concerted effort to get some carbs in. I think my typical day is probably about 120 g. So I should shoot for 225??

I do want to make some calorie reductions. Those fat totals are a little off though. I couldn’t find egg whites, so it said I was eating 14.3 grams of fat when I really only 5. I also had a hard time getting the salad count right, and it was tallying like 20 g of fat when I think it’s probably 5 tops. And before you get all upset, those were the only foods I had a hard time with. I think everything else is accurate.

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### Author: ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1202 "2019-03-13T20:33:53Z")

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> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> And before you get all upset

I wouldn’t be upset.

> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> From which day?

I was looking at the 7 day average.

For the next 7 weeks, see if you can make these meals more carb-focused:

- Tuesday dinner
- Wednesday breakfast or lunch (whichever meal is before your run)
- Wednesday dinner (post-run)
- Friday dinner
- Saturday breakfast or lunch (whichever meal is before your run)
- Saturday dinner (post-run)

That way you are not getting too depleted before or after those significant run days.

> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> So I should shoot for 225??

About 200-225 would be good. And also if you can swap out more protein for some of the fat, that would help.

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2019, 3:22am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1203 "2019-03-14T03:22:47Z")

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> [@Eric](#):
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> For the next 7 weeks, see if you can make these meals more carb-focused:
> 
> - Tuesday dinner
> - Wednesday breakfast or lunch (whichever meal is before your run)
> - Wednesday dinner (post-run)
> - Friday dinner
> - Saturday breakfast or lunch (whichever meal is before your run)
> - Saturday dinner (post-run)
> 
> That way you are not getting too depleted before or after those significant run days.
> 
> ![](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/nickyghaleb/40/3832_2.png) Nickyghaleb:

That’s a plan. 😃

> [@Eric](#):
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> About 200-225 would be good.

Definitely more than what I’ve been doing on a regular day. My brain shouts out _hooray_, but I’m not so sure there’s anything to be celebrating. It’s an extra couple of applesauces. No reason to be baking brownies every night… 🤔

> [@Eric](#):
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> And also if you can swap out more protein for some of the fat, that would help.

More protein for some of that fat… Ideas?? I told you I think the fat totals were a little higher than what I actually eat, right? Hmmm… I’d love to do this. I also told you this is starting to sound more like the way I’ve eaten most of my life… pre-diabetes. It’s also what it took me years _post_- diabetes diagnosis to learn to avoid. Not the protein stuff but the whole diet. The higher carb, lower fat, good amount of protein…

Really??

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### Author: ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2019, 3:29am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1204 "2019-03-14T03:29:42Z")

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> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> Really??

Really.

It depends on what a person needs. You are ramping up your mileage, and the intensity you are doing is going to be high enough that you will be using a lot of glycogen. more than what you are used to.

More protein will also help your muscles recover better between workouts.

It’s not high-carb or low carb, it’s right-carb.

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2019, 3:35am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1205 "2019-03-14T03:35:33Z")

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It feels like a week ago that I ran, but it was only about 12 hours ago…

Okay. Today I was supposed to do 5 miles at 7.0, and I did that. It was a great run— and I mean _great_. Yesterday I was worried a little about my hip/glute, but today there wasn’t even a whisper from it. I started the run feeling good and strong, and I never felt anything but. So that was happy-making stuff.

About my BG… Also very happy with that. I did drop more than I would’ve liked, but I had a gut feeling it was going to happen and decided I could wait on the carbs anyway. So it ended fine, but I think I could tighten it up a little next time.

I was planning for a noon run, so I had my last food bolus at 8:30 this morning. Basal-IQ did suspend for a little bit, and I saw a bit of a rise at 11:20 that caught me off guard. I was at a 163, and I really didn’t want to go any higher. I decided to try a half unit bolus, just to blunt it, and to leave on my basal until I got closer to the run. At 11:30 I was a 170, but I was already in the 130s twenty minutes later. I suspended my basal at that time.

Starting BG: 117  
Mile 1: 112  
Mile 2: 96 (my instinct was to do the carbs now, but I chose to wait)  
Mile 2.85: 70  
\*Huma gel and .35 unit bolus  
Mile 3.85: 62  
Mile 4.5: 64  
\*Resume basal  
Mile 4.75:  
\*One unit  
Mile 5: 65

RPE: 5.5-6 for the majority. I think I got up to maybe 6.5 in the last 3/4 mile or so.

Really enjoyed today’s run. It felt clean. Plenty of energy, plenty of strength, plenty of good music. 😃

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2019, 3:40am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1206 "2019-03-14T03:40:17Z")

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> [@Eric](#):
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> It’s not high-carb or low carb, it’s right-carb.

You do know I had to seal up a bag of chips and put a date on them and had to accept some kind of dare/challenge from some guy to see how long I could go without eating them in order for me to stop eating them, right? Did you know that? I _love_ that right there… _…not high-carb or low carb but right-carb_… That sounds great. It’s just a dangerous amount of freedom in my hands.

I’m going to do it because I honestly believe I need those carbs now, but I am only hopeful I don’t abuse it.

My new _right-carb diet_. I do like it. 😏

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### Author: ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1207 "2019-03-14T03:43:14Z")

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Have you noticed anything yet about the Wednesday runs on your schedule??

Get dialed in on that pace. Total muscle memory. I want you to be able to feel that pace without looking at the treadmill. I want you to get that Wednesday pace seared in your brain and in your legs.

For the next 7 weeks I want you to know exactly what it feels like, so that it can become automatic.

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2019, 3:45am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1208 "2019-03-14T03:45:47Z")

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> [@Eric](#):
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> I want you to be able to feel that pace without looking at the treadmill. I want you to get that Wednesday pace seared in your brain and in your legs.

It’s a very comfortable pace. Felt wonderful. I’d like to be able to do it outside though… I’m afraid it will feel harder out there.

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### Author: ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2019, 3:46am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1209 "2019-03-14T03:46:11Z")

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> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> Mile 2.85: 70  
> \*Huma gel and .35 unit bolus

I love this. You dropped from 117 to 112 to 96 to 70 and then took insulin. While running. Nice!

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### Author: ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2019, 3:47am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/1210 "2019-03-14T03:47:20Z")

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> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> I’m afraid it will feel harder out there.

That’s just your brain playing tricks on you.

Calibrate your treadmill sometime to see if it is correct.

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