# DN’s Running and Other Mishaps Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Sports & Exercise\ **Created:** [July 5, 2018, 11:53pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398 "2018-07-05T23:53:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 49
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/971 "2019-02-12T01:04:29Z")
https://tenor.com/embed/10549001?playertype=card Please let that be _superstar_… ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/972 "2019-02-12T02:58:50Z")
> [@Nickyghaleb](#): > > I’m still trying to understand what _GU_ actually does to my blood sugar because it seems to have a kind of prolonged effect… It seems to provide both a sort of rescue rise but also a slower one as well. It’s delayed. This is a good time for pop-quiz. I’ve mentioned a few things about that. You tell me. Explain why it would be delayed. Can you give me 2 reasons? ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:03am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/973 "2019-02-12T03:03:11Z")
> [@Eric](#): > > It’s delayed. > > This is a good time for pop-quiz. I’ve mentioned a few things about that. > > You tell me. Explain why it would be delayed. Can you give me 2 reasons? Becaussssssseeeeee… I have not done any insulin to let it in? 🤔 aaaannnnndddd… beeeeecaausse… _hormones_??! Final answer. ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/974 "2019-02-12T03:04:28Z")
Protein?? ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:05am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/975 "2019-02-12T03:05:20Z")
Cortisol spike… 🤔 I’m not a big fan of pop quizzes. just for the record.😡 ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:19am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/976 "2019-02-12T03:19:54Z")
Are you going to come back with the answer, @Eric, or are you just gonna leave me hanging here… wondering if I somehow passed… ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:03am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/977 "2019-02-12T04:03:59Z")
I will give you simple answers. Each of these could be given with much more detail. This is the quick version. 1. Dehydration slows your digestion significantly. Are you working on staying hydrated before and during your runs? That is one part of the delay. 2. When you are running, your body is prioritizing blood flow to your skeletal muscles. Digestion is put on the back burner. As soon as you stop, all the stuff sitting in your stomach will start to hit. You are seeing that spike when you finish from the gels you ate while running. Once you stop, digestion becomes prioritized a bit more by your body. That is another part of the delay. Your body does not want to use it’s valuable resources on digestion. 3. Gels and solids are not doing to digest as fast as liquids. Your body needs fluids to process things. If you don’t have enough fluids, the delay will be even more. The closer the carbs are to being the same osmolality as your body’s fluids (about 290 mosm/kg), the faster it will be processed. Those gels you are eating are thicker. They have a higher osmolality than your body’s fluids. So they take longer. Fluids will work better. So, what do you do? 1. Drink more, stay better hydrated. 2. Know that intense runs will slow everything down. 3. Use a faster carb source. A liquid instead of a gel. See below. * * * * * * * * * This will be the fastest carb for you when running. 23 grams per 4 ounces, and will hit very quick. This has a much higher carb content then normal Gatorade, so it is easy to pound down a quick blast of carbs. > **[Amazon.com : Gatorade Prime Sports Fuel Drink, Fruit Punch, 4 Ounce Pouches (Pack of 20) : Grocery & Gourmet Food](https://www.amazon.com/Gatorade-Prime-Sports-Drink-Pouches/dp/B00HC76BMU/)** The Gatorade Prime is not ideal for taking out on the road, but for a treadmill it works great. This will be much faster. Try it. ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:20am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/978 "2019-02-12T04:20:36Z")
> [@Eric](#): > > Dehydration slows your digestion significantly. Are you working on staying hydrated before and during your runs? That is one part of the delay. Seriously?? So you mean I could be seeing that delayed rise because I’m dehydrated?? Does that mean I should see it kick in faster if I were better hydrated? Would it be clear like that, or does it not work that way? > [@Eric](#): > > When you are running, your body is prioritizing blood flow to your skeletal muscles. Digestion is put on the back burner. As soon as you stop, all the stuff sitting in your stomach will start to hit. You are seeing that spike when you finish from the gels you ate while running. Once you stop, digestion becomes prioritized a bit more by your body. That is another part of the delay. Your body does not want to use it’s valuable resources on digestion. Sooo… this is _very_ interesting, but have we ever talked about this?? How does one get around this?? It makes a lot of sense for what I see during and after my runs, but what’s the fix?? > [@Eric](#): > > Those gels you are eating are thicker. They have a higher osmolality than your body’s fluids. So they take longer. Fluids will work better. The fix… I actually did kind of consider whether or not the _gels_ could’ve been at least partly responsible for the delay, but I figured it was too simple an answer. So that does make sense. Why am I buying all of these gels then?? Except for the fact when I try to open a liquid while running, I end up wearing it? This all makes a lot of sense, but I feel like I just overfilled my “needs to be solved and something probably needs to be purchased” cup. And if digestion is delayed, how am I even getting anything from it at all until I’ve stopped running?? ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:23am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/979 "2019-02-12T04:23:34Z")
> [@Eric](#): > > So, what do you do? > > 1. Drink more, stay better hydrated. > 2. Know that intense runs will slow everything down. > 3. Use a faster carb source. A liquid instead of a gel. See below. Just saw there was more in your response. Ignore whatever I said up there. ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:25am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/980 "2019-02-12T04:25:05Z")
> [@Eric](#): > > The Gatorade Prime is not ideal for taking out on the road, but for a treadmill it works great. This will be much faster. Try it. Okay, that’s simple enough a solution, but what for the road then?? ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:42am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/981 "2019-02-12T04:42:00Z")
> [@Nickyghaleb](#): > > So you mean I could be seeing that delayed rise because I’m dehydrated?? Does that mean I should see it kick in faster if I were better hydrated? Would it be clear like that, or does it not work that way? A little faster yes. If you are better hydrated, your body will be able to process it faster, yes. It’s all part of it. It’s all incremental. Running slows your digestion, dehydration slows it, gels versus liquids are slower. All the things together are contributing. > [@Nickyghaleb](#): > > How does one get around this?? It makes a lot of sense for what I see during and after my runs, but what’s the fix?? Being better hydrated, understanding there is a potential delay as you increase your intensity, and using liquids. > [@Nickyghaleb](#): > > Why am I buying all of these gels then?? Except for the fact when I try to open a liquid while running, I end up wearing it? The gels are not bad. They are easy to eat, very easy to manage. But it helps to have water with them. And you can use them, or use Gatorade Prime, or both. On the treadmill, drink water whenever you eat a gel. A lot of the gels tell you to drink water with it! ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fudiabetes/original/2X/1/1234af2e5c72f0f08e4e08054941f5a95300d99f.jpeg) > [@Nickyghaleb](#): > > And if digestion is delayed, how am I even getting anything from it at all until I’ve stopped running?? It is slowed down, it is not stopped. Your body still processes what is in your stomach, but much slower! ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/982 "2019-02-12T14:35:23Z")
@Eric, what is this “always follow with water” red underline? The original text clearly is a couple lines below: “Boire de l’eau apres chaque [sachet]” ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/983 "2019-02-12T15:36:39Z")
I grabbed the image of the French label. You are supposed to drink water with them. It helps your digestion process it better. ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/984 "2019-02-12T15:41:12Z")
[it was a joke] ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/985 "2019-02-12T15:52:14Z")
Oh, sorry. Yeah, I could barely make out what the English said on that label. I don’t think you can read it _while_ running. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/986 "2019-02-12T15:55:29Z")
I shouldn’t… but it’s true so… I’m glad you guys came around and joked about the label because without my glasses I thought it said _Always follow constipation with water_ which I found really odd for an energy gel warning. Glad that was cleared up. ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/987 "2019-02-12T15:56:19Z")
> [@Eric](#): > > A lot of the gels tell you to drink water with it! It’s all making more sense now. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![T1Allison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c77e96/32.png) [@T1Allison](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/T1Allison)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/988 "2019-02-12T17:50:05Z")
> [@Nickyghaleb](#): > > _Always follow constipation with water_ I mean, that’s a pretty safe rule to live by. ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/989 "2019-02-12T21:23:19Z")
> [@T1Allison](#): > > I mean, that’s a pretty safe rule to live by. I knew you’d appreciate that, @T1Allison. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/990 "2019-02-13T01:28:32Z")
> [@Eric](#): > > **Tuesday, 2/12** > 30 minute Easy Run with Fast Finish > > 25 minutes @ 9:00-10:000 pace > 5 minutes @ 7:30 pace (8.0 mph) Great run today… So. I did have a coffee and a dance kind of just before starting. My BG was kind of floating most of the morning— not high but at around 130, so that’s why. Why I had coffee and danced. 🤔 Starting BG: 146 Mile 1: 99 Mile 2: 85 Mile 2.8 (tested a little early because was getting ready to start the last 5 minutes): 71 \*had 2 glucose tablets BECAUSE I had no reason to have a full 23 in the GU, AND I had no water on the treadmill. From what we covered yesterday, I really wanted something little that was going to take hold quick… 8 grams worth of chalky citrusy vitamin c tasting tablets sounded like it would do the trick, and it did. Mile 3.5: 77 1/2 mile walk and got off at an 86 \*Did 1 unit of insulin for good measure, and my blood sugar has been spotless since RPE was a 5? Very easy run. Now I’m going back to my list to see what else I can do tonight. I think it’s supposed to snow this weekend, so hopefully it won’t get canceled?? And you mentioned talking numbers, @Eric. In here?? [Previous page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398.md?page=48) [Next page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398.md?page=50)