# DN’s Running and Other Mishaps Thread
**URL:** https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398
**Category:** Sports & Exercise
**Created:** [July 5, 2018, 11:53pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398 "2018-07-05T23:53:41Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/306 "2018-08-10T21:57:55Z")
I was just sitting down to write to you about it. Yes, i ran today. I ran on the treadmill this morning, and it was not terrible. I went 4.5 miles in just over 40 minutes. I mixed in some inclines, mostly because of boredom. BG was a hot mess, and RPE was about 6ish…7ish… Depended on my hips. Once I got settled, it was easy going…
Did that answer your question?
And about my sports medicine guy… I don’t think he’s a clown. I think the UVA thing looks like it would be better, but it would be harder to swing. You gave me the idea of just telling my guy I can’t get up there 3 times a week and getting him to give me a routine at home. I think I might be able to work something out. I was going to call today but got too busy. I’ll send him an email and try to arrange it. Hopefully I can get to him next week or the following week. I know he has the same angle as you, so you’d probably approve… maybe.
So. Now about tomorrow’s run??
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### Author:  [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/307 "2018-08-10T23:29:50Z")
> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> So. Now about tomorrow’s run??
Try to get an hour. Speed and distance don’t matter, take it very easy. Keep your heart rate down and just have a very relaxing run. No stress or intensity, 60 minutes, very easy pace.
After you are done, try to keep moving a little bit. Don’t sit down for hours. Every once-in-a-while move your hips and swing your legs like I told you, so you don’t tighten up.
Let’s see how you are doing on Sunday and then we can get back to work.
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### Author:  [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/308 "2018-08-10T23:43:35Z")
> [@Eric](#):
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> After you are done, try to keep moving a little bit. Don’t sit down for hours. Every once-in-a-while move your hips and swing your legs like I told you, so you don’t tighten up.
This is KEY. When I sit, I get REALLY locked up. It’s ridiculous.
> [@Eric](#):
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> No stress or intensity, 60 minutes, very easy pace.
Is the treadmill okay?? And what about mixing in the inclines? Just to mix up the positioning…
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### Author:  [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2018, 11:52pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/309 "2018-08-10T23:52:07Z")
Treadmill is fine. And changing incline is also fine, but keep your HR down.
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### Author:  [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/310 "2018-08-12T00:55:46Z")
All righty then…
6.5 miles. 60 min. RPE 7ish. HR 👌 Beginning BG 128. Ending BG 64. AND had my banana just before starting… thank goodness.
So…??
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### Author:  [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2018, 3:06am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/311 "2018-08-12T03:06:08Z")
> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> So…??
Run sounds good, but how are your hips doing? Are you good to get back to it next week?
On that big drop, it’s worth mentioning that for the longer runs your might need more carbs during the run.
In general, for non-diabetics running over 90 minutes, the recommended amount is about 30-60 grams per hour.
It’s something that you can’t do all up-front, because then you will spike, and the carbs can’t be used. If you can plan on feeding a little bit throughout the run, it can help get rid of the drop. Maybe 10 grams every 30 minutes or something like that. You don’t have to try an hit the full 30-60 gram recommendation, but just a little bit can help.
Anything made by GU, or Huma Gel would be good. Sport Beans [https://www.sportbeans.com](https://www.sportbeans.com) is super easy, because it’s about 25 grams per pack, so you can easily divide it out as needed (they are basically just jelly beans for runners).
Anyway, if your hips are up for it, we get back to work on Monday. 6 weeks to go.
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### Author:  [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2018, 4:29am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/312 "2018-08-12T04:29:50Z")
> [@Eric](#):
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> Anything made by GU, or Huma Gel would be good. Sport Beans [https://www.sportbeans.com](https://www.sportbeans.com) is super easy, because it’s about 25 grams per pack, so you can easily divide it out as needed (they are basically just jelly beans for runners).
Will add to my list of things to order.
> [@Eric](#):
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> Anyway, if your hips are up for it, we get back to work on Monday.
So I think we just say my hips are up for it. I am calling the sports med/runner guy Monday and see the pain specialist Tuesday. I’ve got it covered.
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### Author:  [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/313 "2018-08-12T17:53:50Z")
Don’t look ahead or look at the next day, only look at the day you are on.
The only run that matters is “today’s run”, not “tomorrow’s”.
Week 6:
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Monday, August 13, 40-45 minute Easy Run
8:57-9:55 pace
* * *
Tuesday, August 14, 1/2 mile repeats
1/2 mile warmup at easy pace
5 sets:
1/2 mile at 7:30 pace (8.0 MPH)
1/2 mile **easy** recovery jog
1/2 mile cool-down at easy pace
* * *
Wednesday, August 15, Off day
* * *
Thursday, August 16, Tempo run
1/2 mile warmup at easy pace
3 miles at 8:00 pace
1 mile cool-down at easy pace
* * *
Friday, August 17, 35-40 minute Easy Run
8:57-9:55 pace
* * *
Weekend, August 18 or 19, Long Run
75 minutes at 9:31-10:16 pace
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### Author:  [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/314 "2018-08-13T02:26:34Z")
> [@Eric](#):
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> Monday, August 13, 40-45 minute Easy Run
> 8:57-9:55 pace
I’m looking tonight, which technically is looking ahead, but I was just looking to see what I have tomorrow. Looks good and looking forward to it.
The rest look hard.
😃
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### Author:  [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2018, 2:40am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/315 "2018-08-13T02:40:44Z")
> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> The rest look hard.
That’s why I said to not look ahead…
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### Author:  [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/316 "2018-08-13T02:48:11Z")
Just pulling your leg there, buddy… They don’t look too hard. 😃
I didn’t look. 🙈 Only joking.
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### Author:  [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/317 "2018-08-13T15:18:37Z")
Random question… you know how I am about numbers, and I’m trying to understand these… How is a cadence alone, without the context of your pace, a meaningful number? Without knowing someone’s speed, how is knowing they took 200 steps a minute helpful? This has absolutely nothing to do with me, I’m just curious. It seems 200 steps a minute could mean a slower stride or a slower pace. But how would you know the difference?
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### Author:  [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/318 "2018-08-13T17:02:57Z")
> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> How is a cadence alone, without the context of your pace, a meaningful number?
I know your general pace. And since it was right after your warmup, I knew it wasn’t an extremely fast pace or slow pace, it was right in your general distance pace.
The day you did it was warmup and then 7.0 mph.
Usually runners have a problem with a cadence that it too low, not too high.
Your cadence will generally increase somewhat as your speed increases, up to a point. And if your cadence was 180 at the easy pace, it would only increase as you got faster.
So your cadence is not a problem at all, and that tells me your stride is also not too long. Those are all good things.
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### Author:  [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/319 "2018-08-13T17:06:03Z")
> [@Eric](#):
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> The day you did it was warmup and then 7.0 mph.
So you did have context. Makes sense.
Thank you. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/320 "2018-08-14T00:30:42Z")
So just an all around bad day. I tried to get on the treadmill, but I couldn’t run. At all. I held up my weight for maybe a quarter mile, but every time i tried to take my hands away from the side bars, it felt like my hips were going to shatter. I ended up going down the street for a very slow, painful 1 mile walk. Even had a public cry. About a lot of nothing.
I drove about 4 hours round trip today for a doctor’s appointment. I also sat for 2 hours in the waiting room. All for semi-crappy news. I took one Advil for the way up and one for the way back, but I think all that sitting just left me too locked up. Tomorrow morning I see my endo (and will test my meters… the highlight of my week), and then I see the pain specialist tomorrow afternoon. IF I WAKE UP TOMORROW AND THE PAIN IS GONE, which seems to be the way it always works, I’m going to run to the appointment. 38 miles. All the way. I would REALLY like this doctor to see the kind of pain i’m talking about so maybe i can get some help figuring out the cause.
Bad days suck, so it’s best to put an end to them. I’m going to try to close this thing and go to sleep. But if you see me on here asking dumb questions after midnight, you’ll know I failed. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2018, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/321 "2018-08-14T00:53:28Z")
Sorry about all that. 🙁
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### Author:  [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2018, 1:03am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/322 "2018-08-14T01:03:12Z")
I had to double check… but you didn’t cause it. 😉 thank you though. And now I AM going to bed.
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### Author:  [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2018, 1:36am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/323 "2018-08-14T01:36:23Z")
> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> it felt like my hips were going to shatter.
> [@Nickyghaleb](#):
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> I drove about 4 hours round trip today for a doctor’s appointment. I also sat for 2 hours in the waiting room.
There seems to be an issue with sitting. Last time on your trip, 7 hours in the car really messed you up.
Is this normal for you? If you sit at home for an hour or two, or if you sit in the theater, do your hips get jacked up?
If you think sitting is an issue, talk to your guy about it.
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### Author:  [@TravelingOn](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TravelingOn)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/324 "2018-08-14T02:19:09Z")
> [@Eric](#):
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> Also, roads are generally crowned, so if you run on the road, one side will be slightly higher than the other side. This is made worse if you switch sides when you return, because then you are elevating the same leg on the way back, and the same leg gets twice as much. but not switching sides means you don’t see traffic so that isn’t really an option.
The stuff you know about astounds me. 😄
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### Author:  [@TravelingOn](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TravelingOn)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2018, 2:34am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/dn-s-running-and-other-mishaps-thread/4398/325 "2018-08-14T02:34:25Z")
> [@Eric](#):
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> That’s the problem with a lot of PT places. They don’t really have a motivation for you to heal, because they keep saying “come back 3 times per week…”
I’m going to just throw something out there… Based on my own experience, and that of my friends and family. I feel like PT offices ask people to come back two to three times a week, because patient compliance is absolutely terrible. People are completely unwilling to do the work at home. Most people are not @Eric and @Nickyghaleb.
I’ve had a lot of luck with PT and so has EH, after years of seeing doctors and chiropractors and massage therapists for help, PT diagnosed my neck issues and repaired them in six weeks.
Not all are amazing however, but personally I’ve found them helpful.
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