A carb and protein shake! Would that spoil your appetite? Some simple sugars, followed by the more complex carbs with dinner a little later would be great!
how about if i just have a large glass of milk? doesnât that cover all of the categories? protein, carbs, and hydration?
Look at the amount you need.
Milk is good stuff, but you canât cover your carbs with just milk. Youâd have to drink almost 1/2 gallon of milk.
Depending on how much you weigh, how hard you are swimming, and the type of stroke you are doing, you will burn anywhere from 350-900 calories an hour swimming.
If you are on the low side, and swim only an hour, suppose you burn 400 calories. Thatâs worth 100 grams of carbs. Youâd want to replace half of that right away.
Milk is great, but other foods along with milk will help you reach that carb amount much easier.
Iâve heard chocolate milk can be goodâŚis that not enough carbs?
Chocolate milk is great. Yes, that has plenty of carbs, and also protein. Itâs the perfect recovery drink.
When she said, âa large glass of milkâ I just assumed she was talking about normal milk, which does not have as much. But if she drinks a glass of chocolate milk, that would be great.
For recovery, the ideal ratio of carbs-to-protein is thought to be anywhere between 2:1 and 4:1. Chocolate milk is 4:1, so itâs perfect.
forgot to set my TB before bed last night. during the night at around 4am, my bgs were 122; just fine, right? BUT THEN, when i woke up at 7 am, my bg was 40. i took some juice and waited 1/2 hour and brought my bg up to 117, then had a cup of coffee. breakfast will be eaten later.
i am going away for the w/end so i wont be swimming for 3 days. i will be able to re-coop and recover. i will carb/protein load. that should make my monday swim relaxing. iâm going to shoot for 1.5 hours. i will try again the 2 hour 0% temp basal and see how that goes. all will be depending on my bg rise from the TB and my initial bg from when i start. iâm just plugging away at this. i refuse to give up 
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i think that after i swim and am ready to leave the pool, i will have 1 challah roll, fresh turkey and then follow it up with some milk. it should be around 5 pm at that point so i think i should plan to have that as my mini dinner, and then before bed, i will have something small. also, i must lower my overnight basal.
whats your take on the overnight lowered basal? i am fine throughout the night; its the morning when i go low. this happened to me the last 2 times as well. should i make myself get up during the night and turn on the TB for 80% ??? i would like to test this situation on a morning following a day that i DONT swim; if i still wake up low, i was thinking that i might want to change my pumps basal rate so that i am getting less insulin in the early morning hours. what do you think?
Your plan sounds great. I think âunpluggingâ for 2 hours (0%) before your swim will work well.
If you are 122 at 4am and then 40 at 7am, I would definitely lower the rate at that time. On your pump you can set it for any hour or 30 minute increments, right?
If you have seen this before, why not create a basal program that has less from 4am to 7am and see if that fixes it. And I bet that on days when you donât swim, you may need just the normal basal amount. So maybe youâd want to create a different program - one for swimming days and one for non-swimming days.
This type of thing is why I stress the importance of getting proper nutrition when you finish your exercise. Your body starts to pull every bit of glucose it can out of your blood to replace the fuel you used for your swim. Itâs kind of âpay me now, or pay me laterâ. So in my mind, I think itâs better to âpay your body backâ with carbs right after you finish your exercise instead of doing it at 4 am!
Hope this makes sense. 
This thread is an inspiring thread: a highly motivated T1D working at removing limits, and experimenting to make it work.
Daisy Mae, this is truly wonderful to see this! 
#T1Dstrong
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i was away at the beach on fire island for the w/end so i am sorry i didnt get back to you right away. but i am home and ready to get back to business. i had a few nights where my sugars were just fine, and then the morning lows would set in. but fire island is a weird place for me. my BGs go a bit wonky out there, so there is never a normal pattern i can base anything on. i did virtually no exercise, unless you could call biking to the grocery and walking on the beach a form of rigorous exercise but this has been the case since i have been D, and i never make any basal changes based on whatever happens there. so, that being said, i will give myself a little time back in brooklyn to see how things shapen up, and then i will go from there to determine whether or not i need to make an early morning basal change. but, as i have told you before: i take very detailed notes, so i will most likely be able to figure things out.
tomorrow i plan on turning my basal to 0% for 2 hours prior to swimming. depending on my bg before i lower the tb, i will decide whether or not to have any ucan bar. i am eager to see how all these new strategies work out. i am also very eager to get back into the pool !!! fire island turns me into a sloth and i am a type of person who prefers to be in constant motion
PS: i had a 29 bg an hour and a 1/2 after lunch on saterday. JUICE!!! scary. i was lucky i was home when it happened. wondered if my i:c was set properly. but it didnt repeat itself. who knows.
hope everyone had a great w/end. i am so glad to be back. out there, i am the only T1D in the house.it can get a little lonely. this site has been life changing 
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I know how you feel We live in the country, and there is probably not a T1D within miles of our houseâŚ
so at 3:30 this morning, my bgs were 112, but when i woke up at 7am my bgs were 68. took 2 g tabs and waited for my bg to come up to target range. had a cup of decaf and decided to lower my over-night basal rate:
here were my basal rates before the change:
12am .625
6am .675
8am .65
10am .625
1pm .575
7pm .625
here are my change(s)
12am .625
3:30am .60
8am .65
10am .625
1pm .575
7pm .625
so the only changes i made were for the 3:30 am basal rate
skipping the 6am basal, and then continuing the previous rates throughout the day.
i am uncertain that skipping the 6am basal rate was wise/prudent, but i guess i will find out tomorrow. do you have any opinion on that??
Just to clarify, when you say âskippingâ, you are not actually removing it, youâre just running 0.60 units an hour from 3:30am - 8am instead of the higher rate of 0.675, right?
Just looking at the tricky sleeping hours from midnight to 8am, before your total was 5.1 total units, and now with the adjustment, it is 4.8875 total units. So you didnât remove too much.
It may depend, on days when you work hard you might run this one, and on days where you took it easy you can run the other one. But the amount of units you removed was only 0.2125, which is a very small amount.
You may need to do more, but I would not be worried that you did too much!
yes; i simply took the 6am basal out of the equation from my profile. now i have programed my basals to go directly from 3:30am straight to 8am, and then back to the regular existing profile beginning at 8am.
does that make sense to you? i wasnt that clear on what you meant when you said âskipping.â yes, i DID remove the 6am basal completely. ( the 6am basal was set at .675 until the 8am basal of .65 begins.)
Ok, so yes you are only removing 0.2125 total units. which is not too much.
It may take some further tinkering and a little bit less, but see how it works for you after a hard swim. On days after big exercise I sometimes lower by 40% or more! So your reduction is not too big.
this same problem happened to me over the w/end during which time i did NO exercise at all. just 3 complete rest days. today has been the 1st morning that i had this problem while i slept at home with my regular nights sleep and routine.
so it seems like something regular that is going on. anyway, i changed the basal just as i posted you earlier, and weâll see how that plays out tomorrow morning.
i am about to leave for the pool; 2 hours at 0% basal, bg173. wish me luck. iâll fill you in later. (its 1:30pm right now here on the east coast.)
thx again, DM
Good luck on your swim!
I think you are on the right track with the nighttime basal adjustment. It may take several nights to get it fine-tuned.
EXPERIMENT #5
OMG!!! this is one for the records.
pre-swim at 2pm BG 170
2:30 pm (1/2 hour mark) BG 177
3pm BG 155
3:30pm BG 153
4pm BG 143 ( 2 hour mark) got out of pool and gave myself a hefty bolus of 1.7 units. i had been off basal for 4 hours now. phew. long hard swim felt easy as a breeze after the 3 day rest.
so, stability can be achieved 
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now i just need to figure out how to keep my BGs in target range during my swim. but after this afternoon, i learned that i can almost flat line; almost. progress not perfection. so far so good.
i am on a major endorphin rush right now. ( thought of swimming longer, but the pool gets really crowded after 4pm.) i am so psyched. i really didnt think i would be able to do it, but i did it.
thx for all your faith in me 
Daisy Mae
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Woohoo! This is so great @daisymae and an inspiration for everyone else out here!
Nice work! Awesome DM!
Once you get comfortable with this, do you know what is next?!?
no. whats next???