# Daisy Mae's swimming BG thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Sports & Exercise\ **Tags:** exercise, blood-sugar, swimming\ **Created:** [May 11, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894 "2017-05-11T23:29:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 81
**Author:** ![TiaG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/tiag/32/594_2.png) [@TiaG](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TiaG)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 7:32am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1613 "2018-07-21T07:32:07Z")
These are truly phenomenal numbers @daisymae…I think you’ve been tricking us all along and are not diabetic. ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1614 "2018-07-21T14:43:03Z")
> [@TiaG](#): > > I think you’ve been tricking us all along and are not diabetic. didnt eric tell you that so long as i swim i am not diabetic??? (LOL) 😉 (thats why he keeps encouraging me to swim 5+ days a week ) ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1615 "2018-07-21T16:43:49Z")
You are swimming Sunday, right?!? ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1616 "2018-07-21T17:50:32Z")
yes. i am swimming this sunday (tomorrow). that will give me 5 days of swimming this week. ☀ ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1617 "2018-07-22T19:32:40Z")
**ANOTHER SUNDAY SWIM EXPERIMENT #2:** apprehensive about risking swimming on a w/end day, but last w/end was so awesome that i figured i would give it another shot. **talk about worthwhile!** there was practically no one in the pool. i had a lane to myself the entire swim!!! Yahoo!!! (and no screaming children either) i would like to say that it was relaxing, but i swam as hard and as fast as i possibly could, knowing that i was only planning on swimming for an hour. ouch, do my muscles burn!! and my body feels as if i had swam the full 90 minutes. but 60 minutes of hard swimming is still substantial. i just kept pushing myself to go faster. my numbers were incredible as well. **here are the stats:** 1:20 BG 104 (took 1/2 Gtab) 2pm BG 89 2:30 BG 76 i bolused less than i usually do for basal replacement, and i bolused less for carbs re-fuel. i am hoping that that will keep me from nose diving later on. i also bumped up my ICR from 1:17 to 1:18 for dinnertime. hopefully that will do the trick and carry me thorugh the night w/out any messy lows. will be back into the pool tomorrow and tuesday, then thursday and friday. i was considering waking up at about 3 or 4 am and having bfast, and then swimming earlier than i usually do. i heard that the childrens summer camp doesnt come that early in the morning. but, that would deff take a big commitment from me. i have to ask myself: " are you that nuts? is it that important to be in the pool when its empty?" well, yes it is. so, i might just have to try it out. a new frontier to concur. the other option would to be to NOT eat bfast, and just wake up, turn off my basal for 2 hours, and then walk to the pool. (i will have to consult eric on that one; would it be okay for me to swim on an empty stomach?? ) i have heard that during the summer the pool is empty around 10am. i could turn my pump off at 7:30am and then walk to the pool by 9:30am and be in the water by 10am. hummm. food for thought 🤣 signing off: **DM** ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1618 "2018-07-23T19:41:18Z")
**JUST SOME NEW INFO ON HOW MY BODY REACTS TO INSULIN POST SWIM:** so post swim yesterday, as i mentioned, i was changing my insulin dosing for both my replacement insulin as well as to cover my 32gms of chocolate shakes. instead of bolusing 2 units post swim, i bolused 1.5 units. this worked out very well for me. also, instead of the usual 50% bolus for the 32 gms of refuel, i bolused 40% (1.4 units); this also worked out well. no crashing at all. then, for dinner, i changed my ICR (again) giving myself LESS insulin for my dinner meal. i changed it from 1:17 to 1:18 . it was not enough. 1 hour after bolusing for my dinner, i crashed. not a terrible crash, but i went from 97 (before dinner) down to 46 afterwards. small carb correction and i moved on. tonight i am going to change it to 1:20 ICR and see what happens. also, b/c i am eating such high carb dinners, i am spiking about 4 - 6 hours post dinner/before bedtime. so i raised my basal rates to cover me for that time period. hopefully this will over-ride the spike and i can avoid having to do a pre-bedtime correction bolus. ( i really dont like going to sleep with extra insulin floating around in me) i was thinking that to avoid the screaming children in the pool, i will wake up earlier tomorrow and eat breakfast at 6am, then by 10am, i will have no more IOB and i can turn my pump off. this will allow me to get to the pool sooner, which will help me to avoid the children and the crowd. i think that it will prove to be worthwhile. nothing much to report today other than the insulin changes. swim was uneventful, but my numbers were very good. **here are the stats:** 1:20 BG 113 2pm BG 97 2:30 BG 72 i’ll keep you posted on how the insulin changes went. perhaps not for you, but for me, i find this decreased need for insulin fascinating. also, i am very curious about the carb “dumping” late in the evening hours after dinner. i will be curious to see how my increased basal experiment goes. signing out, **DM** ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1619 "2018-07-24T19:23:06Z")
**THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE; EXPERIMENT # 1:** OMG. was in a great mood, walking to the pool. BGs were on target, ready to enjoy a strong 3rd day in a row swim. when i got to the pool i tested my BG and i was 87, so i took 3/4 of a Gtab and jumped in. i swam for the usual 1/2 hour before getting out to test again. when i tested, my BG was 54. i wasnt certain what to do. this has never happened before. i had been off all basal for 3 hours, so when i went back to the locker room, i bolused replacement of 1 unit. i truly didnt know how to handle the situation. i figured that, as usual, my BG would rise post swim, otherwise, i would not have bolused at all. anyway, i dressed and walked home. **i felt disappointed and defeated.** when i got home, i tested again and was 55. i took only 1/2 Gtab and waited 1/2 hour. when i tested again, i was 34. my husband forced me to take some juice. i wanted to wait for my BG to come up naturally, but he was incisstant, so i took a small amount of apple juice. i tested again in 15 minutes and my BG had come up to 57. i have no idea what to expect. will my BG spike b/c of being off basal for 3 hours? will i level off? will i be able to drink my favorite refuel chocolate shakes? will i need to bolus 100% for their carbs? is there anything i should be looking out for or expect when dinnertime rolls around? i keep telling myself that i should know how to handle this situation, but i havent a clue. i will just have to wait it out and play it by ear. i’ll keep you all informed. another swim, another experiment. oh well. signing out, **DM** PS: as i am finishing writing this my BG has come up ( in only another 15 minutes) to 90. i truly hope i level off. ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1620 "2018-07-24T21:38:28Z")
DM, I know this was a tough day, but don’t let it get you down. Bounce back on Thursday. This is a one-off, it isn’t something you need to worry about happening all the time. Anything different about this morning? Timing? Meals? Infusion site? Anything? ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 1:12am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1621 "2018-07-25T01:12:29Z")
> [@Eric](#): > > Anything different about this morning? Timing? Meals? Infusion site? Anything? nothing different. i most likely should have been a little more aggressive with my Gtabs pre-swim. my evening is miserable as its been this past week. 1 hour to 90 minutes after bolusing for dinner, i go low. then i get back to target range and then about 3 hours after dinner, i spike. tonight i corrected the spike (over-rode my pump’s wizard feature) and even with all the IOB i continued to go higher an hour after the correction. i am beside myself with wonder. i cannot figure out how to fix this. all morning, afternoon, and early evening i am fine. perfect target range all day long; then the night comes and all goes to S. i dont know how to remedy the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 1:40am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1622 "2018-07-25T01:40:10Z")
@daisymae DM, I have some ideas about this. I’ll post when I get home. ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1623 "2018-07-25T03:29:35Z")
DM, you are not used to swimming 3 days in a row. Usually you do 2 days and take a break. When you do 3 consecutive days, all of that work adds up. On day 3 you should do these 3 things: 1. When you do the preemptive bolus for missed basal before you turn off your pump, I think you should reduce a little bit. Maybe take 0.15 units off, or something like that. 2. On your post-swim bolus, reduce that a little bit. 3. Your IC after swimming can also be change a bit too. ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1624 "2018-07-26T19:39:37Z")
**GETTING BACK ON THE HORSE, SWIMMING EXPERIMENT #1:** after i crashed so terribly in the pool on tuesday, i was very apprehensive about getting back in. part of me was feeling so defeated that i felt ready to call it quits. i mean, a BG of 54 when you’re at home is no big deal, but, a 54 when you are in a swimming pool is awfully frightening. so, i mustered up all of my courage and put my mind to it; **after all, i am UNLIMITED**. it was an easy paced 60 minute swim. but it relaxed me and i felt courageous for not quitting. i will be swimming again tomorrow as well as sunday. then i will be going back to my regular 90 minute swims. i just needed to test the waters today, so to speak, pun intended 😉, and i accomplished that. so hooray for me. **here are todays stats:** 1:20 BG 123 2pm BG 123 2:30 BG 97 and BTW, i was getting so sick and tired of all of the problems i have been having with my evening meals and BGs that have been roller coastering, i finally fasted and did an afternoon through morning basal test. turns out i need a lot **less** insulin than i thought i needed. after going through all of my notes i realized that i had been eating a lot of fatty peanut butter before my meals and not taking my Domperidone (for the GP) before my dinners. all that fat, i think was delaying my stomach emptying. so, the insulin would hit me but the food was not digesting. so i was crashing from the insulin, and then long after it peaked, my BG would spike. now i am no scientist nor a doctor, but i stayed away from the peanut butter last night, and i did not spike at all. once i lowered all of my basal rates, i remained completely flat and in target range. however, tonight i will be eating dinner, but i am staying clear of the PB and will be taking the Donperidone about 45 minutes before eating. i am hoping, with fingers crossed, that all will be well. and thats all the news… signing off, **DM** ---
**Author:** ![TiaG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/tiag/32/594_2.png) [@TiaG](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TiaG)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1625 "2018-07-26T22:04:36Z")
> after going through all of my notes i realized that i had been eating a lot of fatty peanut butter before my meals and not taking my Domperidone (for the GP) before my dinners. all that fat, i think was delaying my stomach emptying. so, the insulin would hit me but the food was not digesting. so i was crashing from the insulin, and then long after it peaked, my BG would spike. Great detective work! ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1626 "2018-07-26T23:43:26Z")
> [@TiaG](#): > > Great detective work! i dont know quite yet if i am right. i will find out tonight after i eat my dinner 😉. i certainly hope, though, that i have found the solution and resolved the problem. ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1627 "2018-07-27T20:26:38Z")
**BASALS ARE STILL OUT OF WACK SWIMMING EXPERIMENT #1:** typically, i will have set basal rates and they will last me a long time with great accuracy; but then, out of the blue, my needs change. i look for patterns and try and make some sense out of them. i try fasting and doing basal tests. very little helps lately. it has been extremely frustrating and unforgiving. i am finding myself doing a lot of corrections. my biggest challenge has been my evenings and my over-nights. i never had this problem before. anyway, i am experimenting and trying to solve this annoying D issue. why bring it up on my swimming thread? good question 😉 : basically, b/c i need to remain in my target range to prep for my swim and to enjoy a good 90 minutes of laps in the pool without either spiking or dropping and crashing. i like to remain afloat 😊. today, i was prepping for my swim; having turned off my pump at 11am, pre-bolusing .3 units (probably not quite enough) and i began to spike from BG 101 to 139 in just 1.5 hours. i told eric, and he told me to go right to the pool, to jump in, and swim to curtail a further rise. i was concerned b/c i am used to having 0% IOB, and i would be swimming a 1/2 hour earlier than usual. (meaning that i would still have some IOB…eegads). but i took his advice, and left for the pool 1/2 hour early. i was glad that i listened to him, but i was also aware of how much of a difference that extra 1/2 hour of 0% basal can effect my body. i had a significant BG drop within my first 1/2 hour, before leveling off and then having my usual second hour plateau. our bodies are so complex; it really astounds me. just trying to re-set my basal rates has made me feel like putting my fist through the wall. this disease baffles me. at least i know, though, that while i am swimming, with absolutely no insulin neccessary, i am not diabetic. 😉 **today’s stats:** 12:50 BG 139 1:10 BG 146 1:45 BG 121 2:15 BG 91 2:45 BG 86 3:15 BG 85 Note: since i havent figured out my proper basal rates for the daytime yet, i have no idea if i gave myself the correct replacement basal bolus or not. i am assuming ( and its just a guess at this point) that my afternoon basal rate is .475/hour. so, 4 hours off of my pump would require 1.9 units of insulin. i wont be swimming tomorrow, but i swam 5 days this week, so my insulin sensitivity is heightened. i just need to remain aware of that. hopefully, this evening will be better than last’s. please keep me in your prayers !! signing off, **DM** ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1628 "2018-07-27T21:09:47Z")
Looks like a great swim. Anytime you end up in the 80’s is perfect! You should reward yourself for that! (_I have a silly thing I do as a treat whenever I end up in the 80’s_ 😀) > [@daisymae](#): > > left for the pool 1/2 hour early A good thing to remember. It’s rule #462. Have a plan - but always be willing to be flexible, to change your plan and adapt to the circumstances. Good work today! ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1629 "2018-07-27T21:11:27Z")
> [@Eric](#): > > ( _I have a silly thing I do as a treat whenever I end up in the 80’s_ 😀) i am dying to know what that silly thing is!!! i cant even imagine, except that i am guessing it has something to do with food 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1630 "2018-07-27T21:13:35Z")
> [@daisymae](#): > > i am guessing it has something to do with food 😉 Nope, not food. It is called the “Shower Beer”. I try to use cans though. I learned that the hard way. ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1631 "2018-07-27T21:14:23Z")
> [@Eric](#): > > It is called the “Shower Beer”. havent a clue as to what that might be. sounds fun though. ---
**Author:** ![daisymae](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/daisymae/32/1199_2.png) [@daisymae](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/daisymae)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 9:22pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894/1632 "2018-07-27T21:22:40Z")
> [@Eric](#): > > always be willing to be flexible, to change your plan and adapt to the circumstances. this is what i have been learning (very slowly) since i have been swimming. and its great advice, b/c it applies to everything in life. thanks for the reminder. [Previous page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894.md?page=80) [Next page](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/daisy-maes-swimming-bg-thread/894.md?page=82)