# Cool Tech for MDI Patients. Warning - Europe Only -
**URL:** https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327
**Category:** Tips, Tech & Gear
**Created:** [June 28, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327 "2018-06-28T22:40:21Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/1 "2018-06-28T22:40:21Z")
Here is a cool insulin pen that doses in 0.1 unit increments and is compatible with everyone’s (4 companies) insulin pen cartridges.
Seems pretty cool for those on MDI that want the ability to microdose. It is a bit expensive at 169 Euro’s, but I know of no other tool with these options.
> **[Digitaler Insulinpen pendiq 2.0 - smart, modern und innovativ](https://pendiq.com/en/insulin-pen/)**
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> Der digitale Insulinpen pendiq 2.0 erleichtert das Leben mit Diabetes mit Memory-Funktion, Bluetooth, 0.1U Mikrodosierung und wiederaufladbarem Akku.
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### Author:  [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/2 "2018-06-28T23:23:27Z")
Dang. If only we knew somebody who was in Europe right now…
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> [@We have arrived!](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/we-have-arrived/4286):
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> It took us several months, but here we are! We sold the house and the cars, semi-retired, sold the company, put our gear in storage, and took off for a 15-month cultural experience trip abroad. We are now in the South of France, moving every week to a new place. The process was difficult and stressful to say the least, and kept us so busy that we could not do anything else. I could only keep up with my PMs in the forum during all that time. We will progressively (all three of us) be able to s…
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### Author:  [@docslotnick](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/docslotnick)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/3 "2018-06-28T23:59:28Z")
Sounds great! We should have it over here in about 3-4 years. Thanks FDA.
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### Author:  [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2018, 10:09am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/4 "2018-06-29T10:09:33Z")
We’ll see if we can get one 🙂
[EDIT] It appears they don’t require a prescription. They also ship internationally btw, per the FAQs!
We are moving from place to place all summer, but we are sttling down for a few months in Sept, so we will try to order one then and test it for the community 🙂
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### Author:  [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2018, 12:27pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/5 "2018-06-29T12:27:46Z")
> [@Michel](#):
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> We’ll see if we can get one 🙂
I was just teasing you of course! But it does seem like a cool gadget to try. Let us know what you think.
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### Author:  [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2018, 2:54pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/6 "2018-06-29T14:54:08Z")
I sent a message asking if they can ship to the united states, will let everyone know the results.
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### Author:  [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/7 "2018-06-29T15:19:07Z")
I use a diluted Lilly pen for microdosing with a pen. It’s not as fancy, but if it’s something that would help, you can do it that way too.
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### Author:  [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/8 "2018-06-29T16:53:18Z")
Yes, I am aware of the option, it just seems that 0.1 unit dosing from a Pen would be much easier than diluting and make the pain of MDI vs Pump much more interesting.
As a trained chemist (not currently working in the area) I am more than comfortable diluting, but the ease of the pen is great.
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### Author:  [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/9 "2018-06-29T17:00:22Z")
What do you think the accuracy would be with a 0.1 unit dose from a pen? That seems like a tough thing to manufacture in such a small device. Maybe if you still have access to your scale, at some point you can test that. 😀
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### Author:  [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/10 "2018-06-29T17:03:22Z")
I would love to test it. I am interested in the accuracy. Because the German’s are building it, I would think it is pretty good.
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### Author:  [@Trying](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Trying)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/11 "2018-06-29T21:15:38Z")
This is now supported by xDrip+ now, too:)
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### Author:  [@docslotnick](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/docslotnick)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/12 "2018-06-29T21:32:52Z")
@Trying Great to see you!
I’m trying to get one to try with xDrip+. We’ve almost got 100% automatic logging.
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### Author:  [@Scotteric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Scotteric)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/13 "2018-06-29T21:39:09Z")
Is there any way to order a Pendiq in North America?
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### Author:  [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/14 "2018-06-29T21:40:17Z")
I emailed Pendiq to inquire if they would ship to North America. I am assuming they have CE to sell in Europe, if so, it might be possible in Canada, but I am guessing that they cannot ship to the US. Will update once they reply.
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### Author:  [@Scotteric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Scotteric)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/15 "2018-06-29T21:43:05Z")
Awesome, thanks!
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### Author:  [@Trying](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Trying)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/16 "2018-06-29T21:50:25Z")
Yes, my capture rate is typically near 100%, too, except when sensor is dying. Are you referring to 100% capture rate with the pendiq?
Small boluses is one of the reason I switched to the pump, so this pen seems perfect for MDI surfing.
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### Author:  [@Jen](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Jen)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2018, 7:39am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/17 "2018-06-30T07:39:17Z")
I’d be interested in trying this as well!
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### Author:  [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/18 "2018-07-02T14:37:33Z")
Well, it is as I expected. They are unable to deliver to the US. ☹
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### Author:  [@Katers87](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Katers87)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/19 "2018-07-06T02:36:43Z")
That’s too bad. These look super cool!!! Maybe they’ll come to the U.S. eventually.
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### Author:  [@MisterMints](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/MisterMints)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cool-tech-for-mdi-patients-warning-europe-only/4327/20 "2018-10-28T22:59:51Z")
Not specifically related to this pen, but to smart pens in general…
With them being (usually) Bluetooth connected to a phone and app, how does the system tell whether you’ve injected insulin, or whether you’ve just done a small shot (maybe a 1-2 units) to clear out any air bubbles in the cartridge? I often will inject a really small amount like 2 units, but I would “use” 4 in total for that with the 2 units dialled for bubble clearance.
I just can’t work out how it does it, or if you are not actually supposed to clear out the needle/bubbles in this way with these pens.
Does anyone know? Thanks
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