# CBD Oil and Diabetes: What You Need To Know – Diabetes Daily

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**Category:** Type 1 & LADA\
**Created:** [May 9, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know-diabetes-daily/7433 "2019-05-09T15:09:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![T1john](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/t1john/32/5546_2.png) [@T1john](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/T1john)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know-diabetes-daily/7433/1 "2019-05-09T15:09:22Z")

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Thought this pretty interesting. Just got medical card due to early stage glocuma. Let me say i dont drink or do drugs, except prescription,  
Eye doctor offered i have been torn but this article has me thinking about trying. [https://www.diabetesdaily.com/learn-about-diabetes/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know/](https://www.diabetesdaily.com/learn-about-diabetes/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know/)

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**Author:** ![ClaudnDaye](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/claudndaye/32/5_2.png) [@ClaudnDaye](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/ClaudnDaye)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know-diabetes-daily/7433/2 "2019-05-09T15:27:46Z")

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The negative stigmas associated with cannabis are overblown imo. Do what you feel you need to STAY HEALTHY - cannabis or not! Cannabis has been proven to help with many medical issues and if it helps, then it should be used imo.

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**Author:** ![cardamom](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/cardamom/32/2622_2.png) [@cardamom](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/cardamom)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know-diabetes-daily/7433/3 "2019-05-09T15:43:52Z")

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I haven’t tried any cannabis products for anything diabetes-related, but CBD at night seems to help take the edge off pain for me enough to help with sleep. I’m skeptical of the many many things it is claimed to help though—seems like it supposedly fixes everything.

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**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know-diabetes-daily/7433/4 "2019-05-09T17:40:29Z")

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> [@cardamom](#):
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> I’m skeptical of the many many things it is claimed to help though—seems like it supposedly fixes everything.

As we all should be until proper studies show effects. I am by no means an expert on marijuana research, but I think it has been shown to have very valid uses for pain and nausea.

CBD oil, I don’t think has been studied, but since it is legal in almost every state, what is the harm in trying and seeing if it works. It doesn’t have much THC, so there is no high with CBD. Seems like it is worth trying, it probably helps with some of the 100’s of things it is supposed to cure.

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**Author:** ![ClaudnDaye](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/claudndaye/32/5_2.png) [@ClaudnDaye](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/ClaudnDaye)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know-diabetes-daily/7433/5 "2019-05-09T23:06:10Z")

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And unlike some would have you believe, Marajuana is NOT a “segway” drug…you won’t get addicted to it if you try it. If that were true, I’d be a junkie under a bridge today. 😉

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**Author:** ![allison](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/allison/32/10718_2.png) [@allison](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/allison)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 12:34pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know-diabetes-daily/7433/6 "2019-05-10T12:34:46Z")

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The placebo effect is notoriously strong - I’m sure that has something to do with it! [Here is a great podcast](https://www.npr.org/2019/04/29/718227789/all-the-worlds-a-stage-including-the-doctor-s-office) from NPR about it (the placebo effect; not CBD) - transcript available on the left hand side if you prefer that.

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**Author:** ![cardamom](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/cardamom/32/2622_2.png) [@cardamom](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/cardamom)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know-diabetes-daily/7433/7 "2019-05-10T13:45:40Z")

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Absolutely. It’s why people need to do placebo-controlled RCTs of CBD. It’s also I think just people trying to profit off of CBD and recognizing how many folks out there have medical conditions and problems not well addressed by medicine who are eager for a potential answer and willing to spend $$ to try to find it.

I’d love to do my own single case study of CBD on myself (dose multiple times, only some of which are actually CBD, and have only my partner know which are active), but as of yet, the methods of ingestion I’ve tried are so noticeable (the flavor is very hard to mask) that I’m not sure how I’d effectively do it.

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**Author:** ![cardamom](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/cardamom/32/2622_2.png) [@cardamom](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/cardamom)\
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> [@ClaudnDaye](#):
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> And unlike some would have you believe, Marajuana is NOT a “segway” drug…you won’t get addicted to it if you try it. If that were true, I’d be a junkie under a bridge today. 😉

It isn’t, and it doesn’t cause physical dependency like some illicit drugs, although for people who use MJ (not just CBD) _a lot_ (like every day, up to several times a day), it can be extremely hard to stop and cause aversive rebound psychological symptoms for up to a month following stopping, which ends up functioning a whole lot like addiction whether or not it’s labeled as such. Also there’s some preliminary evidence that while probably not bad for adults unless in excess, even small amounts of it may not be good for developing (i.e. adolescent) brains. Still probably way less risky on the whole than alcohol or nicotine though!

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**Author:** ![Jim\_YYC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/jim_yyc/32/9553_2.png) [@Jim\_YYC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Jim_YYC)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know-diabetes-daily/7433/9 "2019-05-10T13:53:52Z")

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I tried CBD (oil) a couple of months ago in an effort to alleviate sleep issues that have plagued me for years (typically was getting 3-5 hours of sleep per night).

I went the medical marijuana route as Oils/Consumables are not as legalized as the herbs (in Canada). The results weren’t noteworthy. Effectively no effect whatsoever on sleep patterns.

Keep in mind the product I ordered was Myrcene heavy, and I may have benefited from trying something different.

If you’re interested in CBD’s, it helps to know your terpenes

[Marijuana Terpenes Guide](https://fldispensaries.com/florida/dispensary/terpenes-marijuana-cbd-guide/)

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**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know-diabetes-daily/7433/10 "2019-05-10T14:16:18Z")

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> [@Jim\_YYC](#):
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> it helps to know your terpenes

Looks really helpful. Here are a few:

![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fudiabetes/original/2X/1/1b0c04412ad4737f52d2d1d232d41d9b07c00f5f.png)

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> [@cardamom](#):
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> but CBD at night seems to help take the edge off pain for me enough to help with sleep.

My husband finds that CBD oil helps relieve chest pain from exertion.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know-diabetes-daily/7433/12 "2019-05-10T15:10:02Z")

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> —seems like it supposedly fixes everything.

Yep, this is where my skepticism comes in. I mean, a “cat whisperer” even came to our house and recommended giving our cat CBD oil for peeing in the house!! i KNOW there are no clinical trials on that, LOL.

However, there are a handful of studies showing demonstrated benefit for a handful of rare things, like severe epilepsy syndromes in kids. Personally I would only use it for things that have actually been studied.

> **[What Is Epilepsy?](https://www.webmd.com/epilepsy/understanding-epilepsy-basics)**
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> Epilepsy is a serious condition that affects millions of adults. Learn the causes, symptoms, and treatment of epilepsy, a brain disorder that causes seizures.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know-diabetes-daily/7433/13 "2019-05-10T15:12:55Z")

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There are issues with marijuana use beyond physical dependency. There’s evidence it can trigger psychotic episodes for some people, and can trigger the onset of schizophrenia for others. Usually for people who start taking it as a teen. I know a handful of people who have had that happen.

I live in a legal recreational marijuana state. I don’t think pot is as benign and miraculous as people make it out to be. I don’t think it should be illegal but also it should not be a go-to drug used to treat every conceivable ailment.

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**Author:** ![Jim\_YYC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/jim_yyc/32/9553_2.png) [@Jim\_YYC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Jim_YYC)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know-diabetes-daily/7433/14 "2019-05-10T15:57:23Z")

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> [@TiaG](#):
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> There’s evidence it can trigger psychotic episodes for some people, and can trigger the onset of schizophrenia for others.

I completely agree @TiaG . THC users can easily become addicted to using it, and in many people this can trigger schizophrenia (especially younger people)

CBD’s with negligible THC have no psychotropic effects

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/CarzIGX2Zr8/maxresdefault.jpg "CBD vs THC - What is the Difference? How CBD and THC Work in the Body by Thomas DeLauer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CarzIGX2Zr8)

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**Author:** ![cardamom](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/cardamom/32/2622_2.png) [@cardamom](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/cardamom)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know-diabetes-daily/7433/15 "2019-05-10T16:15:12Z")

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It’s not really known whether there’s a causal link between marijuana use and risk for psychosis/schizophrenia. There is anecdotal evidence and some research suggesting people with the diagnosis are more likely to have used mj prior to diagnosis; however, it may well be that people who are more prone to schizophrenia also are more likely to use mj, versus a causal effect, and anecdotal evidence is always subject to heuristic biases. That said, there’s some compelling evidence that mj affects aspects of brain development in adolescents/young adults (think under 25), especially in frontal regions necessary for executive functioning, so it’s possible that for people already at risk for mental health problems, it might exacerbate things. It’s probably not great for anyone’s cognitive functioning to use it at that age.

But yes, this is not referring to CBD only—most of the findings are specific to THC.

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While it’s true, there’s been no randomized clinical trials, there have been a few population-wide studies showing correlations between increased pot usage and increased schizophrenia.

There’s this one from Europe:

> <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30902669>
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> Cannabis use is associated with increased risk of later psychotic disorder but whether it affects incidence of the disorder remains unclear. We aimed to identify patterns of cannabis use with the strongest effect on odds of psychotic disorder across Europe and explore whether differences in such patterns contribute to variations in the incidence rates of psychotic disorder.We included patients aged 18-64 years who presented to psychiatric services in 11 sites across Europe and Brazil with first-episode psychosis and recruited controls representative of the local populations. We applied adjusted logistic regression models to the data to estimate which patterns of cannabis use carried the highest odds for psychotic disorder. Using Europe-wide and national data on the expected concentration of Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in the different types of cannabis available across the sites, we divided the types of cannabis used by participants into two categories: low potency (THC \<10%) and high potency (THC ≥10%). Assuming causality, we calculated the population attributable fractions (PAFs) for the patterns of cannabis use associated with the highest odds of psychosis and the correlation between such patterns and the incidence rates for psychotic disorder across the study sites.Between May 1, 2010, and April 1, 2015, we obtained data from 901 patients with first-episode psychosis across 11 sites and 1237 population controls from those same sites. Daily cannabis use was associated with increased odds of psychotic disorder compared with never users (adjusted odds ratio \[OR\] 3·2, 95% CI 2·2-4·1), increasing to nearly five-times increased odds for daily use of high-potency types of cannabis (4·8, 2·5-6·3). The PAFs calculated indicated that if high-potency cannabis were no longer available, 12·2% (95% CI 3·0-16·1) of cases of first-episode psychosis could be prevented across the 11 sites, rising to 30·3% (15·2-40·0) in London and 50·3% (27·4-66·0) in Amsterdam. The adjusted incident rates for psychotic disorder were positively correlated with the prevalence in controls across the 11 sites of use of high-potency cannabis (r = 0·7; p=0·0286) and daily use (r = 0·8; p=0·0109).Differences in frequency of daily cannabis use and in use of high-potency cannabis contributed to the striking variation in the incidence of psychotic disorder across the 11 studied sites. Given the increasing availability of high-potency cannabis, this has important implications for public health.Medical Research Council, the European Community's Seventh Framework Program grant, São Paulo Research Foundation, National Institute for Health Research (NIHR) Biomedical Research Centre (BRC) at South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust and King's College London and the NIHR BRC at University College London, Wellcome Trust.

There are more but my guess is we’ll really start to answer questions on causality as we see pot usage go up in states with recreational marijuana use, and we can then compare schizophrenia incidence rates in states with and without legal marijuana.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know-diabetes-daily/7433/17 "2019-05-10T21:23:19Z")

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Oh nevermind, I misread that. Yes it does suggest the possibility that it may exacerbate risk.

My guess is that it’s still not going to take someone not at all at risk and give them schizophrenia, but people with a family history of severe mental illness probably should be especially careful.

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**Author:** ![T1john](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/t1john/32/5546_2.png) [@T1john](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/T1john)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/cbd-oil-and-diabetes-what-you-need-to-know-diabetes-daily/7433/18 "2019-05-10T21:24:52Z")

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Would like to say, I am not talking about my use, don’t smoke and don’t want to. CBD has no ar almost no thc, don’t get high from it. I like the findings of this study.

"[One study,](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23684393) which reviewed data from 4,657 patients over a 5-year period, determined a “significant link between the regular use of marijuana and better blood sugar control,” and also noted that consistent cannabis users displayed:

- A 16% reduction in fasting insulin levels
- A 17% decrease in insulin resistance levels
- Increased levels of HDL-C
- Smaller overall waist circumference (an implication of reduced instances of obesity)

“Researchers concluded that a ‘significant link’ exists between the regular use of cannabis and better blood sugar levels.” Although more studies are recommended to prove causation."  
From above linked article.

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@cardamom, guess I am good, have major depression disorder, but I am not family​:grin:😁

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I would argue the people in these studies were already predisposed to schizophrenia and marijuana had zero to do with it. 🙂 Anecdotal evidence isn’t evidence imo. This study couldn’t connect any dots. They might as well have said “The contribution of cannabis use to variation in the incidence of Broken Heart Syndrome.”

😃

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