# Canadian / U.S. OmniPod Swap Test!

**URL:** <https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442>\
**Category:** Pump\
**Created:** [October 24, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442 "2017-10-24T18:18:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442/1 "2017-10-24T18:18:50Z")

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This was brought up previously. Some discussion on the price difference between the omnipod PDM in the U.S. (available in the U.S. for $200-$300 direct from Insulet, with some haggling) versus up to $6,000 in Canada depending on your province. The Canadian group that supplies omnipod products is a 3rd party distributor.

So I brought up the idea that a Canadian could use a U.S. PDM. The only difference would be the BG meter would have units in mg/dL versus mmol/L.

Despite discussions with Insulet, who say it won’t work, and who say Canadians can’t use U.S. pods or PDM and vice versa. I doubted what they were telling me! I really didn’t think they would manufacture the pods differently for Canada!

> [@Temp basal +60% for 8 hours](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/temp-basal-60-for-8-hours/2302/30):
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> I discussed this option with Omnipod CA sales several months ago. They tell me that a US PDM won’t work with CA pods frowning I am not sure if this is true or if it is a grey-market-fighting lie.

> [@Temp basal +60% for 8 hours](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/temp-basal-60-for-8-hours/2302/31):
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> I’m pretty sure what they told you is not true. They do not have two different makes of pods. They do not sell enough in Canada for it to be worth the extra manufacturing cost. Insulin units are insulin units. The pods deliver the same units. The only difference is the BG stuff, and the calculations for BG corrections, which is entirely on the PDM. But this would actually be very easy to prove… Anonymous Canadian, what would you say to a pod swap? What do you think, something like 2 U.S. po…

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Of course I never believe what a pump company tells me.

But we didn’t have to just wonder or take their word for it. With people on FUD from Canada and the U.S. willing to swap and test it, we put the theorem to the test.

Here is what we found:   
Despite what Insulet tells you, U.S. pods work with a Canadian PDM, and Canadian pods work with a U.S. PDM. Totally interchangeable. Other than the units for the BG meter - mg/dL versus mmol/L - everything else works the same.

So if you are in Canada, and want a spare PDM, you can do it cheaper than $6g.

Thanks to my Canadian counterpart for the experiment! :guinea_pig:

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fudiabetes/original/2X/8/808ad43b96fadd24c2c751ff5abe4be118c21602.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442/2 "2017-10-24T18:30:42Z")

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This is an outstanding experiment. Great info.

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**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442/3 "2017-10-30T18:40:48Z")

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I just finished my second Canadian pod. It was wonderful. No problems with it, everything worked well. Great BG the whole time.

The only weird thing is that I now have a strange urge to eat bacon, drink Tim Horton’s coffee, and play hockey.  
😃  
Eh?

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**Author:** ![Aaron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/aaron/32/1454_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Aaron)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442/4 "2017-10-30T18:56:35Z")

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Did you also have an urge to learn French after reading the label on the back of the pod?

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**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442/5 "2017-10-30T19:07:36Z")

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Don’t forget to eat some poutine! Now that is a diabetic challenge.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fudiabetes/original/2X/3/3b0f7d9c56d14e706e6d8fb5c760e4c5695e0974.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Beacher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a6a055/32.png) [@Beacher](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Beacher)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442/6 "2017-10-30T19:13:05Z")

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Two more Canadian diabetic challenges.  
Two Nanaimo bars and a butter tart.  
Now isn’t that a beautiful sight?

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**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442/7 "2017-10-30T19:43:13Z")

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> [@Beacher](#):
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> Two Nanaimo bars and a butter tart.
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> Now isn’t that a beautiful sight?

So true!

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**Author:** ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442/8 "2017-10-30T22:30:53Z")

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You’re lucky to be in Wisconsin where most of the temptation is cheese, which is super bg friendly

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**Author:** ![CatLady](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/catlady/32/36_2.png) [@CatLady](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/CatLady)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442/9 "2017-10-30T22:53:58Z")

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> [@Beacher](#):
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> Nanaimo bars

@rgcainmd’s favorite!!

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**Author:** ![Jen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/jen/32/4777_2.png) [@Jen](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Jen)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442/10 "2017-10-30T22:57:30Z")

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> [@CatLady](#):
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> @rgcainmd’s favorite!!

This makes me want to re-attempt some dairy-free, low-carb Nanaimo bars again this year!!! I found a recipe for dairy-free custard, which was the part that failed before, so I will re-attempt sometime soon.

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**Author:** ![CatLady](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/catlady/32/36_2.png) [@CatLady](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/CatLady)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442/11 "2017-10-30T23:17:40Z")

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Oh good, let us know how that comes out!

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**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442/12 "2017-11-02T17:14:26Z")

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> [@Sam](#):
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> where most of the temptation is cheese

Cheese curds aren’t really a temptation 🙂

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**Author:** ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442/13 "2017-11-02T17:18:18Z")

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> [@CatLady](#):
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> @rgcainmd’s favorite!!

Wish she was here but she’s become a leader in the twitter resistance instead.

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**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442/14 "2017-11-02T17:19:55Z")

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> [@Jen](#):
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> I found a recipe for dairy-free custard, which was the part that failed before, so I will re-attempt sometime soon.

I remember reading series of threads about low carb Nanaimo bars. Oh, it is the All Day I Dream About Food blog, she cooks gluten-free keto (@Pianoplayer7008, have you checked her out?):

> **[Keto Nanaimo Bars](https://alldayidreamaboutfood.com/best-low-carb-nanaimo-bar-recipe/)**
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> The famed Canadian dessert gets a healthy makeover. These low carb, sugar-free nanaimo bars will blow you away!

> **[Keto Nanaimo Bars](https://alldayidreamaboutfood.com/best-low-carb-nanaimo-bar-recipe/)**
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> The famed Canadian dessert gets a healthy makeover. These low carb, sugar-free nanaimo bars will blow you away!

> **[Keto Nanaimo Bars](https://alldayidreamaboutfood.com/best-low-carb-nanaimo-bar-recipe/)**
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> The famed Canadian dessert gets a healthy makeover. These low carb, sugar-free nanaimo bars will blow you away!

@Jen, if you try any of these, let us know, I have been wanting to try her Nanaimo bar;/tart recipes but I have never pushed the button yet…

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**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442/15 "2017-11-02T18:22:05Z")

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Everything I have tried from her blog has worked out and been tasty.

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**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/canadian-u-s-omnipod-swap-test/2442/17 "2017-11-02T19:35:37Z")

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> [@Beacher](#):
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> “Healthy Nanaimo Bars” is a contradiction in terms.

🙂

> [@Beacher](#):
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> If you have some cheese beforehand, it lessens the spike.

Nice trick, thank you!
