# Benefits of Looping

**URL:** <https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270>\
**Category:** Type 1 & LADA\
**Created:** [May 9, 2025, 1:02am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270 "2025-05-09T01:02:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cevans54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ea924/32.png) [@Cevans54](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Cevans54)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/21 "2025-05-12T20:55:01Z")

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Yes, I understand. You’re right, of course.

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**Author:** ![ClaudnDaye](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/claudndaye/32/5_2.png) [@ClaudnDaye](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/ClaudnDaye)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/22 "2025-05-12T20:57:42Z")

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Yes. Look for the “Looped” group

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**Author:** ![bkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/da6949/32.png) [@bkh](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/bkh)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 10:40pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/23 "2025-05-12T22:40:33Z")

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> [@Cevans54](#):
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> Facebook, right?

Other choices include [Starting Loop? | Loop and Learn](https://www.loopandlearn.org/starting-loop/)

and the “official” [LoopDocs](https://loopkit.github.io/loopdocs/)

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**Author:** ![jbowler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e274bd/32.png) [@jbowler](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/jbowler)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/24 "2025-05-17T00:43:33Z")

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Well Android no longer supports screen shots with scrolling so, listing the pumps from the AAPS config menu:

- DanaR
- DanaR Korean
- DanaRv2
- Dana-i/RS
- Accu-Check Insight
- Accu-Check Combo
- Omnipod (Eros - RileyLink)
- Dash
- Medtronic (RileyLink + specific models)
- Diaconn G8
- EOPatch2
- Medtrum
- Equil 5.3
- DIY (but it’s just an open loop)

I’m not using a dev build, the support there may be different. The screen shots give a lot more info 🙂

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**Author:** ![Shecamp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/shecamp/32/10368_2.png) [@Shecamp](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Shecamp)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/25 "2025-05-19T16:44:06Z")

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From what I hear, Omnipod 5 enables a closed loop system. It’s only available now in Canada so I’m looking forward to figuring it all out. Just hoping the provincial government will cover it but they’re pretty cheap when it comes to healthcare issues.

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**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/26 "2025-05-19T19:13:13Z")

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> [@Shecamp](#):
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> From what I hear, Omnipod 5 enables a closed loop system. It’s only available now in Canada so I’m looking forward to figuring it all out.

The OmniPod5 in the U.S. is already a closed-loop system. but it is not customizable for each user. Is there something different coming out in Canada?

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**Author:** ![Shecamp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/shecamp/32/10368_2.png) [@Shecamp](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Shecamp)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/27 "2025-05-19T19:44:46Z")

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Am not aware of any differences if there are some. It was approved a year ago and Omnipod is only starting to distribute it now. As far as training goes, will have to wait and see how to figure it out. Still drives me crazy that I have throw out close to 40 units of insulin every time I change the Omnipod Dash - it’s such a darn waste.

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**Author:** ![Shecamp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/shecamp/32/10368_2.png) [@Shecamp](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Shecamp)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/28 "2025-05-19T19:45:28Z")

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It was approved by Health Canada in spring of 2024 and they’re just starting to roll it out to users now.

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**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 10:43pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/29 "2025-05-19T22:43:03Z")

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> [@Shecamp](#):
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> Still drives me crazy that I have throw out close to 40 units of insulin every time I change the Omnipod Dash - it’s such a darn waste.

Is it because of the minimum fill amount?

If so, let me know. There are a few things you can do to help with this issue. I can walk you through them.

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**Author:** ![Shecamp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/shecamp/32/10368_2.png) [@Shecamp](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Shecamp)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 10:46pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/30 "2025-05-19T22:46:43Z")

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Yes, that’s definitely it - have to fill to 80 units and I don’t use much insulin every day.  
So when I change the pod I still have usually 40 units left. Would love any tips you have but I’ve tried quite a few things. Just resigned myself to it now!

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**Author:** ![Shecamp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/shecamp/32/10368_2.png) [@Shecamp](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Shecamp)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 10:47pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/31 "2025-05-19T22:47:24Z")

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Am T1D for 54 years now!!!

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**Author:** ![TomH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/tomh/32/9063_2.png) [@TomH](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TomH)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 10:49pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/32 "2025-05-19T22:49:01Z")

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> [@Shecamp](#):
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> Still drives me crazy that I have throw out close to 40 units of insulin every time I change the Omnipod Dash - it’s such a darn waste.

@Shecamp Sorry, posted this before reading the rest…

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**Author:** ![Shecamp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/shecamp/32/10368_2.png) [@Shecamp](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Shecamp)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 10:54pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/33 "2025-05-19T22:54:39Z")

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Typically have 36-40 units left in the pod when I change it. Don’t need much insulin to manage my blood sugar well. Insulin in Canada isn’t as expensive as it is in the USA so I’ve just been living with it. Thanks so much for your help - not sure I want to try all the calculations you mentioned, seems like it might be more of a pain. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/34 "2025-05-20T13:45:14Z")

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Hi @Shecamp!  
The first thing to try, is when you are filling the pod, fill it very s-l-o-w-l-y. You can get it to activate with less insulin that way!

Listen closely to the pod, and fill it **slowly**.

Once you hear the pod’s activation beep, stop filling!

Instead of needing 80 units to get it to activate, you can probably get it to activate with 70 or less units.

So try that first, and see how much less you are wasting!

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The other thing to try is reusing insulin from a pod that has expired.

You take the leftover insulin out of your old pod (just use any syringe and remove it), and you put it in your new pod. Along with whatever new insulin it takes to activate the pod.

Doing that, your new pod is filled with both new and old insulin. Less waste!

But if you do that, do not continually do it with every pod. You have to alternate it, so that you do not continue to have insulin that becomes older and older.

Alternate it like this:  
Take leftover insulin from pod A and put it in pod B. After pod B expires, throw it away. Don’t take any out of it, some of it was already in 2 pods! You don’t want to use it in a 3rd pod!

Now start pod C, which has all new insulin. When pod C expires, take the leftover and put it in pod D. But when pod D expires, throw all of that insulin away.

Makes sense? Rotate your using of old insulin into _every other pod_ to ensure that no insulin is leftover from 3 pods!

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Lemme know if you have any questions!

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**Author:** ![Shecamp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/shecamp/32/10368_2.png) [@Shecamp](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Shecamp)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 2:25pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/35 "2025-05-20T14:25:22Z")

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Wow - thank you so much Eric! Sounds like you have it down to an art - how smart of you!

I will look at your instructions carefully and try to implement over the next week or so. That will be so nice. Thanks so very much! 🙂

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**Author:** ![JessicaD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6f9a4e/32.png) [@JessicaD](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/JessicaD)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/36 "2025-05-20T19:21:04Z")

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@Shecamp it’s funny – our insulin usage sounds very similar! I also wind up with a lot left in each pod and pull any left over out and put it into a vial labeled “once-podded Novalog” and just use that all in one pod once I’ve got enough of the “once-used” built up. Then when that pod is done, I throw away the leftover insulin from that pod and keep moving forward.

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**Author:** ![Shecamp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/shecamp/32/10368_2.png) [@Shecamp](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Shecamp)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/37 "2025-05-20T19:54:47Z")

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Hmmm - how long have you been T1D Jessica? It’s been 54 yrs for me!  
I did try to do this same thing previously but found the re-used insulin was not quite as ‘effective’ as the new stuff from the bottle. Think I should try it again cause everyone here seems to have found some success by doing this! Thank you so much!

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**Author:** ![TomH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/tomh/32/9063_2.png) [@TomH](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TomH)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 12:40am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/38 "2025-05-21T00:40:25Z")

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@Shecamp Just popping up to say @Eric is right about the slow fill of pods. I routinely get the activation chirps at about 65 units from (I use pens as they are no cost, and provide a convenient easy to carry back-up injection means should a pump fail). Could save you about 20+ units per pod!

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**Author:** ![Shecamp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/shecamp/32/10368_2.png) [@Shecamp](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Shecamp)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 5:25am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/39 "2025-05-21T05:25:06Z")

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Oh my! I’m going to have to try filling the pod really slow. Hope it works for me too - that’s a big savings of waste.

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**Author:** ![JessicaD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6f9a4e/32.png) [@JessicaD](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/JessicaD)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 3:38am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/benefits-of-looping/15270/40 "2025-05-22T03:38:57Z")

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@Shecamp I’m T1 for 32, almost 33 years (but diagnosed at age 20). I am v new to pumping and looping, though, so still figuring it all out! I have gotten the hang of the slow fill, but am still a little worried about not having enough insulin so definitely put more in than I need. Let us know how the slow fill w less than 80u works for you! Insulin really is liquid gold.

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