# Auto Mode - Worse than Manual Mode

**URL:** https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/auto-mode-worse-than-manual-mode/4130
**Category:** Tips, Tech & Gear
**Created:** [May 30, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/auto-mode-worse-than-manual-mode/4130 "2018-05-30T23:13:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author: ![mikev1963](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@mikev1963](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/mikev1963)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/auto-mode-worse-than-manual-mode/4130/1 "2018-05-30T23:13:25Z")

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I been on auto mode for the last week. My Blood Sugars before auto mode averaged between 80 - 140. Once I switch to auto mode my blood sugars are now averaging between 130 - 220. It appears auto mode is broken and does not give me the proper basil settings according to my blood glucose.

Is anyone else having =this issue?

Mike

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/auto-mode-worse-than-manual-mode/4130/2 "2018-05-30T23:21:11Z")

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Hi. 😊

I am a fellow 670G-wearer… and auto mode-skeptic. You’re only a week into auto mode, so I really don’t want to influence your opinion of it before you’ve had the chance to see what it will do for you, but I’m here if you’d like to talk. I will do my very BEST to let you lead the conversation. 😃

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### Author: ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/auto-mode-worse-than-manual-mode/4130/3 "2018-05-30T23:28:36Z")

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> [@mikev1963](#):
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> It appears auto mode is broken and does not give me the proper basil settings according to my blood glucose.

Welcome to FUD!

Nicky can help you out here.

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### Author: ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2018, 1:08am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/auto-mode-worse-than-manual-mode/4130/4 "2018-05-31T01:08:26Z")

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Other people have had similar results. My understanding is the system needs more time to adjust to you. My completely uneducated guess from seeing your pre-average mode numbers is that you may eventually decide that auto mode isn’t for you. But you should really give it a chance first.

As Eric said, Nicky knows a lot.

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### Author: ![TiaG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/tiag/32/594_2.png) [@TiaG](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/TiaG)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2018, 4:26am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/auto-mode-worse-than-manual-mode/4130/5 "2018-05-31T04:26:41Z")

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I was speaking with my endocrinologist yesterday and she said that automode has a fatal flaw, which is that it will kick you out of automode for any tiny slight, and often that means it kicks you out just as you’re going high. She did not encourage us to quit using our homebrew openAPS closed loop.

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### Author: ![DeeM](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/deem/32/3597_2.png) [@DeeM](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/DeeM)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2018, 2:14am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/auto-mode-worse-than-manual-mode/4130/6 "2018-06-02T02:14:52Z")

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Haven’t experienced much in the way of being kicked out of auto, but will add my two cents of experiencing several times of auto not delivering insulin because my BG fell / falls below the 120 threshold - then experiencing a significant rise a few hours later. Don’t know how I’d feel about being thrown out of auto on top of _that_…

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### Author: ![Nickyghaleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nickyghaleb](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Nickyghaleb)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/auto-mode-worse-than-manual-mode/4130/7 "2018-06-02T03:02:26Z")

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> [@DeeM](#):
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> Haven’t experienced much in the way of being kicked out of auto, but will add my two cents of experiencing several times of auto not delivering insulin because my BG fell / falls below the 120 threshold - then experiencing a significant rise a few hours later.

I’ve also never experienced that _particular_ fatal flaw. All the rest of them, with the lack of insulin delivery and all of that, yes, I’ve had a run-in or two. 😁
