# Afrezza: dealing with the 4U minimum **URL:** \ **Category:** Afrezza\ **Tags:** corrections, bolus, type-1, inhalable-insulin, type-2, noninjected-insulin, mealtime\ **Created:** [April 25, 2017, 2:10pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/afrezza-dealing-with-the-4u-minimum/613 "2017-04-25T14:10:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![drpepper68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@drpepper68](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/drpepper68)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 2:48am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/afrezza-dealing-with-the-4u-minimum/613/41 "2017-05-15T02:48:37Z")
People don’t know about it, that’s the problem. People love new things, they flock to it. That’s why they buy new iPhones as soon as they come out. It’s the Doctors who do not like new things that are so different. It requires them to learn and spend a lot more effort with their patients in such a different way of treatment. That’s why I had to change Dr’s as he literally said it wouldn’t help me and wouldn’t prescribe it. After 15 years of same Dr I went to new one and I can’t be happier. And guess what? This drug that wouldn’t help my 8.xx A1C which was mainly caused by spikes right after eating brought it down to 6.5 in a few months! This is after YEARS of high A1C. Every time I meet someone who is diabetic or family member, wife, etc is I ask tell them about it and they are shocked that there is inhaled insulin. My CVS pharmacist never heard of it! They have no clue. It’s up to the Dr’s to educate their patients on the proper medication that can help them and most Dr’s are simply refusing. Most people are not like us and do not keep up with the latest research and treatment options. ---
**Author:** ![mpg54](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/mpg54/32/1212_2.png) [@mpg54](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/mpg54)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/afrezza-dealing-with-the-4u-minimum/613/42 "2017-05-15T04:10:31Z")
You should visit your old Dr and bring proof of your a1c and tell him this is what he could never do for you. I know that I’d try to embarrass him if it was me … ---
**Author:** ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 4:52am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/afrezza-dealing-with-the-4u-minimum/613/43 "2017-05-15T04:52:35Z")
> [@drpepper68](#): > > Most people are not like us and do not keep up with the latest research and treatment options. I agree completely… but the invention of the wheel even didn’t change the world overnight. It’s a game changer… and big changes take time. The expectation amongst some that the world would change overnight was misguided… but that doesn’t mean the world isn’t changing. The vast majority of those who’ve tried this understand it’s a life changer and eventually a landscape changer. Not long ago I was convincing you this was worthwhile, now you’re convincing others, and they will too… that’s how breakthroughs actually occur. They’re not in real time, even though we may look back at them and see them seem like it someday. ---
**Author:** ![mikep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/mikep/32/149_2.png) [@mikep](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/mikep)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/afrezza-dealing-with-the-4u-minimum/613/44 "2017-05-15T14:03:57Z")
This is exactly what I insinuated in a different post on a different forum. Change - especially for diabetics - is super, super scary . . . especially when things seem to be “working.” I’m in the minority on this one as I’ll be the guinea pig for anything new and especially “radical”, which is exactly the way I’d describe Afrezza. Not radical in a bad way, but regimen changing. Most folks are like “what do you mean you take 4u for only 15g of carbs? How on earth don’t you go low?” Misconception and education on how something like Afrezza works is the key. I also think that change for Endo’s is not something they all embrace. If something is “working” for their patients i don’t believe they have the time or desire to help a patient with a new insulin such as Afrezza. This is not taking a shot (pun meant) at endos as many are wonderful and supportive, but just my opinion. I’m very,very lucky to have an Endo who trusts and supports me with anything I want to try, which is exactly why I was the first patient in his extremely large practice to start on Afrezza. ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/afrezza-dealing-with-the-4u-minimum/613/45 "2017-05-16T18:09:07Z")
4 posts were split to a new topic: [FIASP: trying new, very fast acting insulin?](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/fiasp-trying-new-very-fast-acting-insulin/949) ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/afrezza-dealing-with-the-4u-minimum/613/46 "2017-05-15T16:35:51Z")
6 posts were split to a new topic: [T1 with insulin resistance](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/t1-with-insulin-resistance/935) ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/afrezza-dealing-with-the-4u-minimum/613/52 "2017-05-15T16:35:15Z")
Splitting insulin resistance posts to -\> [T1 with insulin resistance](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/t1-with-insulin-resistance/935) ---
**Author:** ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/afrezza-dealing-with-the-4u-minimum/613/53 "2017-05-15T20:28:39Z")
People have a hard time comprehending that the same dose can cover anything from an English muffin to a pig out session at a Mexican restaurant… this isn’t your granddaddys insulin… ---
**Author:** ![mentat](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/mentat/32/789_2.png) [@mentat](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/mentat)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/afrezza-dealing-with-the-4u-minimum/613/54 "2017-05-21T22:37:16Z")
I found that in many situations 4u cartridges are too powerful so I split them in half by hand. They work quite well for me. Actually, I am ordering Afrezza to Australia and paying full price. The 12/8 boxes are the most cost-effective so I have been breaking open the 8s and splitting them (by eye) into 4s. Then I started splitting the 4s in half as well. ---
**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/afrezza-dealing-with-the-4u-minimum/613/55 "2017-05-22T14:52:26Z")
Interesting, how do you package them up after you split? ---
**Author:** ![mentat](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/mentat/32/789_2.png) [@mentat](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/mentat)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/afrezza-dealing-with-the-4u-minimum/613/56 "2017-05-22T21:49:09Z")
I use old 4u cartridges. I put a white sticker on the 2u ones. I’ll try to make a video of the process… ---
**Author:** ![Millz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/millz/32/12204_2.png) [@Millz](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Millz)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/afrezza-dealing-with-the-4u-minimum/613/57 "2017-05-23T01:04:16Z")
There have been several times a 2 unit Afrezza correction would have fit perfectly into my D aresenal!! I’m very interested in how you do this. Thanks for the idea. ---
**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/afrezza-dealing-with-the-4u-minimum/613/58 "2017-05-23T02:56:47Z")
> [@mentat](#): > > I use old 4u cartridges. I put a white sticker on the 2u ones. I’ll try to make a video of the process… @mentat, it would be GREAT if you did this. ---
**Author:** ![Chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/chris/32/382_2.png) [@Chris](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Chris)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 2:09am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/afrezza-dealing-with-the-4u-minimum/613/59 "2017-06-13T02:09:14Z")
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