# A new take on Type 2 from a correlational study:

**URL:** <https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/a-new-take-on-type-2-from-a-correlational-study/2906>\
**Category:** T2 Research\
**Tags:** type-2, onset, gender\
**Created:** [December 19, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/a-new-take-on-type-2-from-a-correlational-study/2906 "2017-12-19T15:45:57Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/a-new-take-on-type-2-from-a-correlational-study/2906/1 "2017-12-19T15:45:57Z")

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> **[Could socialization help us to steer clear of diabetes?](https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320403.php)**
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> A new cross-sectional study from the Netherlands shows that those who are more socially isolated are also more likely to be diagnosed with type 2 diabetes.

Interesting article but do take note of the last paragraph:

“However, they note that the causality may lie in either direction. It may be that people experiencing the early symptoms of an impaired glucose metabolism — including fatigue and a general sense of unwellness — may feel less motivated to go out, participate in social activities, and keep in touch with their friends and acquaintances.”

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**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/a-new-take-on-type-2-from-a-correlational-study/2906/2 "2017-12-19T22:56:16Z")

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Funny, I thought exactly the same thing as I was reading, then reached the last paragraph and saw it written 🙂 Still an interesting perspective.

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**Author:** ![Gary](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/gary/32/1471_2.png) [@Gary](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Gary)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/a-new-take-on-type-2-from-a-correlational-study/2906/3 "2017-12-20T00:15:16Z")

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I find interesting the assertion that men living alone had much higher rates of diabetes, the same was not found to be true in women living alone. I wonder if the study took into account this fact:

I’m pretty sure that if I were forced to live alone my diet would disintegrate into something less than desirable.

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**Author:** ![ClaudnDaye](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/claudndaye/32/5_2.png) [@ClaudnDaye](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/ClaudnDaye)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/a-new-take-on-type-2-from-a-correlational-study/2906/4 "2017-12-20T00:26:36Z")

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Hold up…

So you’re saying this formula isn’t correct???

 ![not correct formula](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fudiabetes/original/2X/6/6a0b6b7b6ad2cf27c82ebbd8da09321c40cc458a.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/a-new-take-on-type-2-from-a-correlational-study/2906/5 "2017-12-20T00:30:14Z")

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> [@ClaudnDaye](#):
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> Hold up…
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> So you’re saying this formula isn’t correct???

It worked for me right up until it didn’t

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**Author:** ![Gary](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/gary/32/1471_2.png) [@Gary](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Gary)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 12:41am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/a-new-take-on-type-2-from-a-correlational-study/2906/6 "2017-12-20T00:41:30Z")

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> [@ClaudnDaye](#):
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> So you’re saying this formula isn’t correct???

Works for me.

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**Author:** ![ClaudnDaye](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/claudndaye/32/5_2.png) [@ClaudnDaye](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/ClaudnDaye)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 12:45am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/a-new-take-on-type-2-from-a-correlational-study/2906/7 "2017-12-20T00:45:41Z")

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I’ve always eaten whatever I want, as much as I want, but I’ve also always been very active. 11 years in the Army running every day, and since then Muay Thai and BJJ

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**Author:** ![docslotnick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/docslotnick/32/75_2.png) [@docslotnick](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/docslotnick)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/a-new-take-on-type-2-from-a-correlational-study/2906/8 "2017-12-20T03:50:49Z")

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Hey, when I was a teenager I would regularly get kicked out of smorgasbord restaurants for going back too many times. I would also sit on the couch on Sunday with a half gallon of ice cream and watch a football game. Breakfast would often be a loaf of bread and a stick of butter. Sure I was super active, but I still ate way more than your average teenage boy. I also didn’t get fat.

But maybe that’s why I got diabetes when I was 19😜

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**Author:** ![ClaudnDaye](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/claudndaye/32/5_2.png) [@ClaudnDaye](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/ClaudnDaye)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/a-new-take-on-type-2-from-a-correlational-study/2906/9 "2017-12-20T03:55:56Z")

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> [@docslotnick](#):
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> But maybe that’s why I got diabetes when I was 19

Nah, if that were the case, myself and my 8 siblings would certainly have it. I have always, and I still, eat in large quantities. When I go to a buffet style restaurant, I amaze my family – I can easily eat 10 plates full. My 300 lb, 6 ft, 5 in., brother-in-law just sits and watches in amazement. I’m 200 lb, but I’ve been 200 lb since 17. My entire time in the Army I was “taped” because I didn’t fit into the “standards”, but they’d always kick me out of the place they taped all the overweight folks because I was always just short (5’7") and buff. I ran a mile in just over 6 min which was really fast for someone as short as I am.

I cut trees with my dad, lived on a farm and did a lot of belling hay and lifting heavy logs and my brothers and I just got strong from all that work as kids.

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**Author:** ![Michel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/michel/32/387_2.png) [@Michel](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Michel)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/a-new-take-on-type-2-from-a-correlational-study/2906/10 "2018-01-01T18:33:40Z")

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2 posts were split to a new topic: [How to help prediabetic friend with poor exercise habit](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/how-to-help-prediabetic-friend-with-poor-exercise-habit/3047)

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 7:58am UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/a-new-take-on-type-2-from-a-correlational-study/2906/11 "2019-12-08T07:58:18Z")

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OOPS! Sorry… missed how old thread id… d’oh!

i hear ya…I’ve taller than you but larger frame and broad shoulders. My idea weight is about 215-220. Charts simply can’t apply to outliers like you & I. But ur not alone!
