# 1/2u Humalog Kwikpen Junior

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**Created:** [September 29, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/1-2u-humalog-kwikpen-junior/2208 "2017-09-29T21:54:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/1-2u-humalog-kwikpen-junior/2208/1 "2017-09-29T21:54:43Z")

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Eli Lilly announces the 1/2u capable disposable kwikpen

[https://www.diabetesdaily.com/blog/lilly-launches-humalog-junior-kwikpen-in-the-us-483834/?utm\_campaign=coschedule&utm\_source=facebook\_page&utm\_medium=Diabetes%20Daily&utm\_content=Lilly%20Launches%20Humalog%20Junior%20KwikPen%20in%20the%20US](https://www.diabetesdaily.com/blog/lilly-launches-humalog-junior-kwikpen-in-the-us-483834/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=facebook_page&utm_medium=Diabetes%20Daily&utm_content=Lilly%20Launches%20Humalog%20Junior%20KwikPen%20in%20the%20US)

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**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/1-2u-humalog-kwikpen-junior/2208/2 "2017-09-29T22:08:16Z")

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Nice!

I have been diluting my KwikPen with 50% mix so it would be a half unit pen.

The KwikPen is a little smaller than Lilly’s metal non-disposable pen, so I wanted to be able to occasionally have a smaller pen that allowed me to do 1/2 unit doses, so I kinda made my own. So glad Lilly is doing this!

Thanks for the news!

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**Author:** ![lh378](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/lh378/32/601_2.png) [@lh378](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/lh378)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/1-2u-humalog-kwikpen-junior/2208/3 "2017-09-29T22:15:39Z")

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Do you notice a difference between

1. Humalog and Novolog
2. The reusable pens capable of 1/2 unit doses v the non-disposables.

FYI-my endo told me that less than 3 units, the pens were inaccurate; and that syringes were the way to go. For the most part, I tend to agree that at less than 2.5 units, syringes are far more accurate than the pens. Nothing beats pens for portability, though.

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**Author:** ![Eric](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/eric/32/9209_2.png) [@Eric](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Eric)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/1-2u-humalog-kwikpen-junior/2208/4 "2017-09-29T22:19:34Z")

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> [@lh378](#):
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> FYI-my endo told me that less than 3 units, the pens were inaccurate; and that syringes were the way to go.

We had a discussion about this a while ago. I do like syringes because I can see the dosing.

@sam, do you recall the thread talking about accuracy, where that was?

> [@lh378](#):
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> Do you notice a difference between
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> 1. Humalog and Novolog
> 2. The reusable pens capable of 1/2 unit doses v the non-disposables.

To me Hlog and Nlog are the same. I think the dosing accuracy from both pens is the same, as far as I can tell. I have not noticed one being worse or better.

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**Author:** ![Sam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.fudiabetes.org/sam/32/10595_2.png) [@Sam](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/u/Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/1-2u-humalog-kwikpen-junior/2208/5 "2017-09-29T22:25:03Z")

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Studies have shown that at doses of 1u that pens are actually (surprisingly) more accurate than syringes. I’ll look for link.

> [@Pen -vs- Syringe precision dosing](https://forum.fudiabetes.org/t/pen-vs-syringe-precision-dosing/1649):
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> I’ve seen studies show that pens are actually more accurate than syringes… dont know how valid that is but it’s what the research I’ve read says… can’t find the study at the moment

I agree that a 0.5u dose will not be superbly accurate “slack in the system” – but it’s so little insulin that it doesn’t really matter much.

I have only used humalog a little bit, like 2 pens worth… but at the time my impression was that it was slightly slower than novolog, less of a peak and slightly longer overall duration, nothing insurmountable… and I’ve seen other people note different observations or no differences at all
